Hmm, a new Canadian documentary, huh?? Any info as to when production starts and when it's expecting to air?? And who'll be airing it, the CBC or some other Canadian channel?? Keep us posted!!
-Becka :)
i have been contacted by an international award winning producer of documentaries and films for television.. .
do you know of anybody or are you currently involved with disciplinary action taken by the elders, or have you recently been "invited" to a judicial hearing?.
do you know of any young witness who has "reached out" of the organization for social support in defiance of wt training.. .
Hmm, a new Canadian documentary, huh?? Any info as to when production starts and when it's expecting to air?? And who'll be airing it, the CBC or some other Canadian channel?? Keep us posted!!
-Becka :)
i was raised a dub, though not born one.
my mother had told the woman her story about studying in the 70's and that she believed the dubs were on to something but just didn't really care.
what i need are some dub friends.
Welcome to the board!!
-Becka :)
amazing grace!
how sweet the sound.
that saved a wretch like me!.
I love this song, thanks for the post. There's just something about it that's so true, so honest and so reassuring, "Amazing Grace" just gives me a good feeling, like everything's not so hopeless after all.
And I'll admit it, "Amazing Grace" always makes me cry.
-Becka :)
i hope this is huge.
like massive bethel schism huge.
like families reuniting in a blur of tears and joy, huge.
I want this to be absolutely HUGE. I want it all over the news, I want it on the front pages of the newspapers, I want it plastered all over the Internet, the more the better.
But of course, that's probably just wishful thinking on my part. This news might be big, but it's probably not as big and important we most of us would like it to be. I'd just like to be big enough that my unbaptized, inactive boyfriend will hear about it and maybe open his eyes and mind a little to the flaws of the WTS, that's all. Just big enough so that he'll consider that maybe, just maybe, the WTS isn't right about everything and that other Christians might be good people, too.
Of course, if it's monstrously huge and it completely blows the WTS's cover, all the better, but I just need something to open my boyfriend's mind and help him see the WTS from another angle, a more objective and less biased one. He really is a smart man, he's just been blinded by the WTS and won't listen to reason, and I really need something to fix that.
-Becka :)
has anyone else wondered why the witnesses hold a meeting in order to 'keep doing this in rememberance of me' ?
since i was old enough to think and reason (yes i know how terrible!
) i could never understand why our 'celebration', the one thing important to true christians in the year, was another meeting!
I'm not a JW, but I've been doing my research and this is really something that I just don't get. OK, so it's the only thing that JWs actually "celebrate", if you can call it that, but only certain people are allowed to participate. Jesus said, "Do this in remembrance of me", not "OK guys, only the remnants of the "144 000" can take part in this, so they can do it in remembrance of me and everyone else can watch", so why isn't everyone allowed to participate??
Or maybe I'm just looking at this through the eyes of an Anglican - we're all allowed to take part in the eating of the bread and drinking of the wine. It's called "Holy Communion" or "Holy Eucharist" and you know what, we do it every single week, no exceptions, sometimes twice a week!! And everyone who's been baptized and confirmed (baptism as an infant, confirmation around age 12 or 13) can take part, no exceptions. It's purely voluntary, you don't have to do it if you don't want to, but most people do, and if you've been through the proper rites of passage (the aforementioned baptism and confirmation), then nobody can refuse to let you participate. The reverend blesses the bread and the wine, then everyone gets a piece of the bread (it's called a "communion wafer") and a sip of the wine (yes, everyone sips from the same silver chalice). There, the Last Supper is remembered and revered by everyone in attendance, and we do it weekly, not once a year.
JWs and the whole "only whoever's left of the 144 000" bit doesn't make sense at all to me. For one, who tells you who's a member of the 144 000 and who's not (does the GB have a nice big list or do these people glow or something??) and two, who's to say that you can't participate in something that Jesus commanded that Christians observe?? Who can say that you're not good enough for it??
-Becka :)
consider me a player.
i am interested in supporting the "big news" news blitz by coordinating a clearing house of jw email addresses.
most of us have a handful of jw email contacts, others may have whole address books filled of them.
My concern with advance emails is the same as Lilycurly's - attack the JWs in advance and they're only gonna get defensive, that seems to be the general reaction to anything against the WTS. Heh, you don't even have to say anything specifically "against" the WTS, either - I was talking to my boyfriend about the WTS a while back, and I simply agreed with a statement that he'd made about the failed 1975 prediction and added a little extra about previous failed predictions without saying anything that could be misconstrued as being anti-WTS, and he STILL got offended and went into hyper-defensive mode. I guess JWs just don't like it when other people look into their beliefs and can possibly then start poking holes in it. Something tells me that sending anonymous emails to JWs would certainly put them on guard against any possible anti-WTS "propaganda".
That being said, I'd certainly love to forward my JW boyfriend's email address to this effort, along with his mother's and two sisters' email addresses, too, just for good measure. I'm a little wary about that, though, because I get the feeling that he'd probably know that it was me that set the whole thing up for him, and that definitely wouldn't be a good thing. I've thought about trying to send him anonymous anti-WTS information - the truth about "the Truth" - but I'm afraid that he'd find out that I was the one behind it, and that certainly wouldn't be good for our relationship. He said that he's willing to talk and compromise a bit on some things in our relationship regarding his practices (or, more specifically, his LACK of practices), but that would just close him up completely.
Has anyone done this before?? Does anonymous blanket emails to JWs actually work at all?? Do any of the JWs get suspicious and suspect specific individuals might be behind moves like that (like non-JW family members/friends/girlfriends/boyfriends)?? In other words, if I forwarded my boyfriend's email address (and possibly the email addresses of his family members, too), would he ever think that it might be me who put his name in for that or would he not suspect a thing?? I'd certainly love to have some information sent his way anonymously, but I'm still anxious about it. I don't want to make any moves that might have negative effects on my relationship - true, the relationship is probably doomed anyway, but I'd like to actually talk through it rather than make him really angry with something like this. What do you think??
-Becka :)
i am so stupid sometimes!.
i own the domain name www.thewatchtower.org similar to the official www.watchtower.org right?
well ten days ago i got an email sent to [email protected] i didn't really look at it too hard, but something made me go back to it just now - i think it was intended for [email protected] !!.
We're all interested now, please share, it sounds like something really juicy!! You have a very captive audience!!
-Becka :)
i was reading some quotes from ralph waldo emerson just now, and one really stuck out in my mind.
it made me think of the wts and what it has become in the last 130 years or so.. "every great institution is the lengthened shadow of a single man.
his character determines the character of the organization.".
Hey Satanus,
Sure, I'd really appreciate the link to that thread, I'm sure it's good reading. I'm all about finding out EVERYTHING that I can about the WTS cult (and yes, I do firmly believe that it's a CULT) and getting lots of opinions on it. My JW boyfriend doesn't actually know how much research I've been doing - he's inactive and unbaptized and never goes to KH (he freely admits to all of this), but he still gets really offended at the thought of me finding out the truth about "the Truth".
And thanks for the reply, too, it's good to know that I'm not the only nutcase who can somehow relate a random Emerson quote to the WTS.
-Becka :)
i was reading some quotes from ralph waldo emerson just now, and one really stuck out in my mind.
it made me think of the wts and what it has become in the last 130 years or so.. "every great institution is the lengthened shadow of a single man.
his character determines the character of the organization.".
I was reading some quotes from Ralph Waldo Emerson just now, and one really stuck out in my mind. It made me think of the WTS and what it has become in the last 130 years or so.
" Every great institution is the lengthened shadow of a single man. His character determines the character of the organization. "
For me, when Emerson says, "His character determines the character of the organization", I see that the WTS doesn't reflect faith and obedience to God or Jehovah or whatever they want to call their "Supreme Being" (call me weird, I like to call Him "God", thanks), I see that the WTS is merely the product of men, nothing more, nothing higher than that, and it reflects the values and morals, or lack thereof, of the men in charge in Brooklyn. It reflects what they want and who they are and nothing else, contrary to what they might claim, and that's why the WTS messes up the lives of so many people. (Of course, this is all probably really clear to everyone here, but it still made me think about that aspect of the WTS.) I've never even been involved with the WTS, I just happen to be dating a JW, however inactive he may be, and I've developed quite a strong distaste for the WTS. Maybe it's not a direct influence in my life - there aren't even any JWs in my family, we're 100% Anglican, both sides of my family - but the WTS is certainly making my life more difficult.
Heh, I disagree with the first part of the quote, though, when I relate it to the WTS - "great institution" is not how I'd describe the WTS, not even close. I could probably think of some choice words to describe it, but that would be both rude and inappropriate here, so I'll keep those to myself.
Hmm, any comments?? What do you think of this quote?? How do you think it relates to the WTS?? Maybe I've just been spending too much time hanging out at JWD (OK, yes, I definitely spend too much time here, no question!! ), but when I read this, I immediately thought of this forum and the organization that we're all here to discuss and debate, so I figured I'l post this up here and see what other people thought about it.
-Becka :)
ok there are so many americans on the map now i had to split you all in half.. valis was kind enough to let me place the maps on his website until i found a new home for them.. photobucket seems to be a good option - at least for now.
so i have uploaded the new maps which have been updated to include everyone who has asked.. so if you were wondering where we are from.
or how close you are to other jwd posters in your area just take a look.
Ooo ooo, I want to be on the map, too!!
Heh, looks like nobody has posted on this thread in a while, but I figure that it's worth a shot. I want to be the first Newfie on the JWD map!! Sign me up - Super_Becka in Newfoundland, Canada!!
Thanks!!
-Becka :)