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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  In addition he cheats on his taxes by writing off items that he is forcing the employees to pay for

  You can't report him for this? I mean this is illegal, isn't it?

  If people are breaking labor laws then there are concequences, if they aren't then its perfectly legal and I don't see it as exploitation. I see it that your husband is in a lesser position and his boss, who has developed a company, is employing him. Such is the order of things. Your husband has the opportunity to change his situation and he is doing that, well all power to him! Good for him! Thats what people do when they don't like the situation they are in. Really, if the guy was cheating on his taxes then I don't see how he could get away from it for long and if you had proof you would report him right? But if you aren't doing that then don't complain to me that he has all kinds of money, its his right, just as its your right to make more money than I do.

  I have righteous indignation that he is rich through sheer exploitation -- that the reason he can afford those luxuries is because he steals money from his employees

  I don't know, sounds like sour grapes to me. I mean show me how he steals from his employees! If you have proof then report him, its illegal you know! And if you don't have proof then you just make yourself out to look even more foolish.

  Edited by - RandomTask on 30 January 2003 0:42:47
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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  I don't believe in exploitation no, but I don't think you are being exploited, I think I have made that abundantly clear. Exploitation is recieving 10 dollars a week for working 100 hours in a shoe factory while sleeping on a dirt floor shack. I think you live far better than that. Bottom line is that yeah, if you don't get an education and then make a family its a heck of a lot harder to live, doesn't mean its anyone elses fault.

  I think you feel sorry for yourself. You did complain about the expense of children and then said that you have three with one on the way, I see a contradiction there, you dont? I mean its fine to sacrifice in order to have kids, I don't have a problem with that, but then you complain about it like its anyone elses problem but your own. I also hope to have kids someday, but not unless I can support them adequately, and then if its hard, I won't come on and say how its hard to raise kids because other people make more than me.

  So then someday your husband will have a business, good for him. Really I mean that. The great thing about this country is that you can improve your standard of living through self-improvement. I'm sure he will have employees who will make less than he does, I mean I don't think he will exploit them, your husbands probably a nice guy, but will it be fair that your husband has a nice house and his employees make less and live in an apartment? Now who's the "fat cat"? Thats just an illustration, but it puts things in relative terms.

  You need to see both sides of the issue, im sure your husbands boss is an asshole and I hope your husband does get out from under him someday. But it doesn't mean that tax cuts are bad or that you yourself wouldn't benefit from them. And I still don't see how you or I or anyone else has the right to say to someone "hey, you make too much, give me some of your money".
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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  The bottom line is your husband has a job, he not only has a job but he gets paid relatively well on what you are able to afford, in my opinion. So your husbands boss stinks, why is that any concern of yours? I mean either your husband is an indentured servant who can only work for this man or he can find himself another job. If he isn't getting paid what he is worth then why sit around and take it? You have the ability to change your life in this country. Don't like what you do, then take advantage of all the opportunities to go to school, change careers.

  Sure, you and your husband have a lot of responsabilities, like a family to take care of, but that's not anyones choice but your own. Perhaps he could have gone to school before getting married, then maybe hed have a better job now. I didn't go to school when I was younger and I'm paying for it now, but I go to night school to get my degree.

  So really, what does it matter if your husbands boss spends his money on cheap french hookers? Is it any right of yours to tell him how to run his business and spend his money. I guess you missed the point that if guys like your husbands boss were taxed harder then they would probably just hand guys like your husband a pink slip. Gee, that job doesnt seem so bad when you don't have it anymore. So the guy is buying Mercedes, somebody had to sell it to him. Hell even Mercedes has holdings in the US which benefits US citizens, gives them jobs. Get rid of the rich and then less people have jobs. You said he buys stocks, well that investment goes to fund companies that GIVE PEOPLE JOBS.

  Im sorry, but where you see exploitation I see an opportunity to own a home, have a family, own cars and watch football on sundays. We should all be so lucky.
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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  First off let me say Im terribly sorry to hear that your husband is chained to this job and not allowed to look for another one. Have you heard of the want ads? Very useful, at least I have found them to be so. I mean I guess your husband gets paid nothing for what he does, or is he able to support a family and own a home and cars on what he makes, yes I weep for you, let me go light a candle in vigil to your dire situation.

  I still am very sorry to hear that you live in a house that you own, while I pine away in my one bedroom apartment, I think "just to be fair" you should sell your house and give some of the money to me so that we can both have a 2 bedroom apartment, wouldn't that be more fair?

  You say your life choices have nothing to do with this? Well don't piss on me and tell me its raining, or in other words, don't have 4 kids and then complain that you can barely support them. I don't care, I believe in birth control, I don't have kids that I will have trouble to support, but I guess that was YOUR LIFE CHOICE, don't come crying to me.
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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  The problem with the international agreements is that it makes the U.S. subject to the whims of some foreign body and does not take whats best for the American citizens into account. Thats why we have pulled out of these traties and rightly so. The pact with the Soviet Union was outdated, there is no more Soviet Union and it prevents the US from being able to defend itself from a nuclear attack by not being able to build an SDI defense. This is especially important in light of what a rogue nation like Korea could do to hold the world blackmail.

  France has nuclear weapons, but are they a threat? No. Why don't we go after France, or Isreal or India? Because their weapons are controlled by relatively sane and rational governments. Really now are you saying that the US having nukes is just as bad as Saddam having them?
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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  Maybe hate is a strong word, but certainly there seems to be a lot of disdain for the rich, a lot of "it's not fair that they have more than me". I simply don't see things that way.
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  just finished fifth estate

  by Inquiry in

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  well, that was awesome.

  it had powerful emotional impact, and male witnesses won't be well received at the door.

  i think the molester in the sault will not be very welcome at doors in his community after this.

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  Has this been posted before? Is there any way us Americans can see this program?
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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  3. 
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  Perhaps their idea of success is having a life that involves something other than work.

  Hmm, well that brings us back to the sitting on your ass point.

  Yes, in fairytale land we should never have to work at all, everything will be provided. Sounds kind of like the new system to me.

  Hmm, I seem to live in the "real world" however where I work for what I have and I am happy for it, I even find some enjoyment in what I do for work. Yes, I was unemployed for 9 months once, I found it very unfullfilling, demotivating and depressing, even though my physical needs were met. I think we spend way too much time complaining about "how bad we have it" without realizing that some of the poorest among us live better than a middle of the road guy in a third world country. This is possible because of our capitalist system and the freedom we enjoy.
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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  RandomTask

  George Bush Jr is totally Nuke-U-lar...LOL

  This is the best you can come up with?

  Edited by - RandomTask on 29 January 2003 22:15:45
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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  RandomTask

  What makes you think you WORK HARDER than anyone else?

  What makes you think I'm too rich and my money should be taken disproportionately.

  $80K per year and WE BARELY MAKE ENDS MEET ... We have three kids and another one on the way

  Sounds like smart planning to me, What makes you think anyone should help support yours or anyone elses life choices?

  These guys are the ones who are making the money off the backs of HARD WORKING guys like my husband and buying the majority of the stocks.

  Gee, thanks for employing me and others and allowing me to have a house and three kids (and another on the way) and cars and all the other great things that we get to have in America, when people who really WORK THEIR ASSES OFF in mexico will recieve about 10 bucks for working in a maquiladora this week. Yes, down with the guys at the top, let the government squueze every cent they can out of them! Oops, wait a minute, too bad they can't afford to keep your husband on because of it. Guess you can kiss the car, the house and the dog goodbye. Geez your appreciation for your high standard of living just oozes out of every letter of your post.

  Edited by - RandomTask on 29 January 2003 22:9:5