I say this to my husband often when he brings some thing that I just can't seem to grasp. "If for most of your life you were taught that red was black, it would take a long time to realize that in fact red was red and black was black". I just feel as if I was taught that there was only one way to think and to view the world and if you think any thing other than what you were taught you are wrong and a sinner. It makes things very complicated. I am wanting and ready to realize that there is more than just one way to view things, how is it that borg doesn't realize that people have the right to view things differently and see things from their own perception? Why is it that it's either one way or not at all? Another comment that my sis made was that no other religion teaches what is "really" in the bible. OMG...how would she know, or any one else for that fact? JW are not allowed to really do any research into other religions (that is the impression that I always had), they are just supposed to go by what they are told and not to question it.
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Has God Just Set Us Up For Failure?
by confused_101 inthe fact that in the very beginning god created man and then woman and placed them in the garden of eden, then he told them that they could partake of all the fruits from the trees but that they shouldnt touch his tree.
the tree of knowledgethat is like putting cookies in front of a kid and telling them that they cant eat them.
then he allowed satan to speak to eve (through the serpent) and convince her to eat and then she would know all that was good and bad.
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My family, as in my 2 little boys and my husband. They sometimes drive me crazy, but they also are my sanity. And of course there is me, I am quite important to my life now. I am living how I want to live and trying not to let the fear of what others think of me affect me as much.
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As a JW did you ever have a personal relationship with God?
by Evanescence in.
as a jehovah's witness did you ever have a personal relationship with god?.
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No I don't believe that I had a relationship with God. It was just something that I HAD to do. I had to keep my family happy, and then my spouse. No where was it something that I really truly believed in, it was like going to school. You had to sit there and stay awake, you had to make good grades, you didn’t talk back, you didn’t really have thoughts of your own.
Sure I prayed, I don’t feel that my prayers were answered. How could he hear me over all the other people that were praying? How can you really have a relationship with someone that you fear? I think that I was always afraid of what other people were going to think and what they would say. I didn’t want to be the person that everyone was gossiping about in their little groups after the meetings. I wanted to please everyone, no thought for what I wanted or how I felt. Then I just said to hell with it all and I am now on the road of self discovery, after I truly know me then perhaps I will be able to figure out the rest of life. -
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Has God Just Set Us Up For Failure?
by confused_101 inthe fact that in the very beginning god created man and then woman and placed them in the garden of eden, then he told them that they could partake of all the fruits from the trees but that they shouldnt touch his tree.
the tree of knowledgethat is like putting cookies in front of a kid and telling them that they cant eat them.
then he allowed satan to speak to eve (through the serpent) and convince her to eat and then she would know all that was good and bad.
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Prove that he was right about what? I guess that I really should do some research...blah...
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Has God Just Set Us Up For Failure?
by confused_101 inthe fact that in the very beginning god created man and then woman and placed them in the garden of eden, then he told them that they could partake of all the fruits from the trees but that they shouldnt touch his tree.
the tree of knowledgethat is like putting cookies in front of a kid and telling them that they cant eat them.
then he allowed satan to speak to eve (through the serpent) and convince her to eat and then she would know all that was good and bad.
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The fact that in the very beginning God created man and then woman and placed them in the garden of Eden, then he told them that they could partake of all the fruits from the trees but that they shouldn’t touch his tree. The tree of knowledge…that is like putting cookies in front of a kid and telling them that they can’t eat them. Then he allowed Satan to speak to Eve (through the serpent) and convince her to eat and then she would know all that was good and bad. (I hope that I am getting it close to the stories that I was told, it’s been many years). Why didn’t Adam speak up and tell the serpent to #uck off? or why didn’t he tell Eve to do the same? So from there everything went down hill.
Then after the big A, the devil will be bound and tossed into the abyss for 1,000 years. Then after all the faithful and those that are resurrected have worked their @sses off to turn the earth into a paradise the devil is let loose, just to temp everyone again. So that way all the bad ones are gotten rid of once and for all. Does it really take all that?
Why wasn’t the devil just destroyed in the beginning, why was he sent to the mid-heavens to reek havoc on the planet? Is God just trying and wanting to tempt us with the things that we aren't supposed to touch and yet it's right there in front of us. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Someone enlighten me if possible and if I have left out any important facts, let me know. I'm happy that I have seperated myself from the dubs because if that is really how God works, that is just a dirty trick. -
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pics of halloween party
by kittyeatzjdubs ini know i know...it's almost christmas.
but i just got the pics .
pic 1: me and matt .
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This was the first year that I actually dressed up (yeah I'm 27, but I missed out on all the fun when I was a kid) I dressed the boys up too. The oldest one is 3, he was a zombie, the youngest is 10mths and he was a lady bug (Francis from "A Bugs Life" he was sooooo cute). I actually decorated and bought candy and the whole 9 yards. I still feel a bit naughty. Like if my parents were to come over and see my house now all decked out in xmas decorations...EEEKK! I guess that I would just bend over and expect my dad to spank me. *sigh* I guess that I will get over that soon. Sorry to get off the topic. Next year hubby and I hope to go to a Halloween party at a club or something. You guys looked like y'all were having fun.
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Collateral damage
by dinah inhello folks, this is the first topic i've started, so bear with me please.. i had searched the internet to try and find my way, made a stop here a couple of years ago but just now decided to join.
anyhoo, in all my searching i've realized that many ex-jws aren't dealing well.
that raises a question for me, because after finally reading the gospels i realized jesus would never treat people the way the gb does even in the interest of keeping a congregation clean (which is a joke, btw).. the anger seems to come out of nowhere.
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I don't know if I will ever be totally rid of all the "teachings" that I was taught. I was raised as a dub. I remember the threats of spankings for falling asleep (when I was like 5) I remember of always being afraid if I did something wrong. I always felt like an outsider at school. I remember thinking that we (JW) were special, that God only listened to our prayers and that we were the only ones that knew the "truth". Now I think it's a huge load of SH*T! It's men teaching their interpretation of the bible. It's us trying to prove a faithfulness and devotion to other men. Why do they have the right to judge anyone else? I also feel that for the most part JW are hypocrites.
It's so hard to push all the thoughts about this man made religion out of my head. It's hard to unlearn all that we were forced to learn. It's funny that I was talking to my sis (she is a JW and she was trying to preach to me lately) and I asked her a question and she stated that she just finally has a relationship with Jehovah and that it has taken her years and years for the information to be "pounded" into her brain and for her to comprehend what is trying to brainwashed. Funny thing is that this was her defense and she didn't see what is wrong with that. Oi Vey!
I still pray, I pray that God will give me guidance and understanding. That some how I realize what is the "truth" and how I need to incorporate it into my life.
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JWs & Trying to Ruin Others' Holidays (long vent)
by rebel8 inwell here i go with my annual holiday stress thanks to my jw relatives............if you are wondering why i'm on this forum after not being a jw myself for so long, there's your explanation.. i realize they have their beliefs against the holidays but it is soooooooo inappropriate to subvert others' participation in holiday celebrations, isn't it?
(rhetorical question there) i mean, if i did it to them they'd claim i was persecuting them!
i have decided i am going to tell them to stop persecuting me!
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I'm a bit confused (name says it all) Is your mom a JW? If so, then why would she be coming to your Christmas dinners (or any other "wordly" holiday get together). I guess it was always my understanding that JW have NOTHING to do with any pagan holidays (atleast that is what was always pounded into my head). I don't mean to bring up any...hmmm...I'm even sure how to word it. I guess hard feelings, or negative thinking. It just seems that if she is so against you having your Christmas get togethers then she shouldn't be there.
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I'm so bummed...
by forsharry intook my firefighter physical agility test today.
got to the second part, the hose pull...and then crashed and burned.
talk about supremely disappointing.
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Rock on Chica! You are a buff girl, you gave it a good go and it didn't work out. I'm sorry that you are feeling blue. I'm sure that you will be able to kick some serious ass next time. And what's up with making the girl go first? Boys suck (jk, I love my fella) (ok I love him most of the time). Any way, better luck next time and if by some chance it doesn't work out again I hope that you are able to find a job that truly makes you happy.
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Help the Newbie
by confused_101 inhey all i'm sure that this is probably a silly question and maybe i'm just a bit slow (no, not a blonde...lol) but could y'all let me know what all the abreviations mean.
i get some of them...jw, dw but like dub, what is that one and any others that are used on a regular basis.
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I'm using firefox...hmmm. I suppose that could try it on IE and see the difference. Thanks again! :D