I often say to Mr.Panda *fick you* and we both laugh. We also throw grenades at each other but that's just us.
LOL! As long as you don't feel guilty about it!
cheezy
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I will no longer feel guilty about.....how about you?
by troubled mind ini will no longer feel guilty about following my own conscience......
if i want to donate to a needy child's christmas fund, i will not feel guilty....
i will give presents to my family when i feel motivated - guilt free......
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Being raised a witness has it's benefits...
by Princess ini actually have several reasons why i don't resent my witness upbringing, but it sure came in handy today.. last year i posted about helping 50 kids run in the seattle kids marathon at my daughter's school.
the event was a blast and while it was a ton of work, seeing the joy on the kids' faces when they crossed the finish line made it all worth it.. this morning i spoke to the entire student body at my daughter's school at their monthly spirit assembly.
if i hadn't been raised a witness, giving talks from the time i was five, i never would have attempted such a thing.
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I have heard this before, and understand the thinking, but I can't get past the idea that I lost a lot more than I ever gained by being raised in the borg.
While I appreciate your positive outlook, Princess, this sums it up for me. Its like being mugged, robbed and beaten and being grateful that they left you bus fare. Swell. After I left WTS and went to college, I took a communication class and learned public speaking. It really isn't rocket science. The biggest drawback of speaking in public speaking is lack of self-confidence. Being raised a JW contributes to that greatly for many of us.
Who knows what you wouldv'e learned or what you would have been like had you been allowed to grow up with a fairly open mind with your natural, healthy curiosity about the world unstunted. I personally will never know.
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I am new to the forum!! Help!
by Jdarley ini have come to this website/forum looking for friendship and guidance along with a bit of support.
i hope here i can learn more about jehovah.
my family is soo against it, and i hope i can gain more knowledge here, for i am thirsty for it.
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cheezy
Welcome aboard, jdarley! You will learn much here and enjoy the fellowship.
I guarantee it!
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Watchtower has been wheat with weeds?
by Star Moore ini have just left the org.
after 26 years.
i would like to make the point that the reason it is hard to leave the org.
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He was given truths from the bible that the other religions honestly don't have.
If the truth is in the Bible, then everyone was "given" it - yes? Or are you saying that he was divinely inspired? To my thinking, with all due respect, he formulated an interpretation of what he read as we are all free to do. I do not think that God would kill us for not agreeing with someone's interpretation, not do I think he "gave" someone the truth. Why not just give us the straight story with no (corruptible) middle man?
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Is Blood Now 'The Tail Wagging The Dog'?
by metatron ina few years ago, the organization seemed to be drifting towards reason.
the knowledge book downplayed holidays and blood.. witness kids were told they could go to college.
the new worship book - as a re-edited "united" book - removed all mention of.
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Witness kids were told they could go to college....................Suddenly, college is being demonized again.
You just can't let the little bastards get book-learning!
Seriously, good thread - great observations and reasoning. And I agree; life and death puts blood into a completely different category than any of the other dumbass dogma.
Ques: How did they get themselves into this conundrum in the first place and why? Just lack of foresight?
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Is Jehovah Mentally Unstable?
by THE SHOOTIST ina friend of mine showed me as interesting scripture, ex.
4:24 that talks about jehovah showing up in person to kill moses, but was talked out of it by moses' wife because from what the bible says she circumcised her son and threw the foreskin at his feet.
she then called him a blood-smeared bridegroom, referring to the circumcision and the lord left him alone.
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I guess when God sees a foreskin its like a bull seeing red, he just wants to kill, kill, kill.
Wait a minute.......you mean it isn't just me?
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Is Jehovah Mentally Unstable?
by THE SHOOTIST ina friend of mine showed me as interesting scripture, ex.
4:24 that talks about jehovah showing up in person to kill moses, but was talked out of it by moses' wife because from what the bible says she circumcised her son and threw the foreskin at his feet.
she then called him a blood-smeared bridegroom, referring to the circumcision and the lord left him alone.
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I'll pass.
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Brand New Blood Card
by PoppyR inhubby has just come back from the service meeting where they have been handed out brand new style blood cards, now called 'advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment' .
it's quite a bit different.
and has the line on it about giving permission to the hospital liason committee to see your notes and medical records.. very scary stuff i think, and i certainly wont be filling one in.. i'm really short of time tonight, but will scan it in, along with the notes that go with it and try and post it some time over the next day or so if someone else doesn't beat me to it!.
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doctors say that 50% of JWs will secretly accept blood products while putting on a "No Blood!" show for any JWs who may be present.
I work at a medical reseach facility and was chatting with one of the nurses about the blood issue and JWs. She quite matter of factly said "Oh, a lot of the JWs cave." I know this is not news to most of you, but it struck me as sad - how the JWs are put in such a horrible, untenable situation.
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Hilarious!
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To Wt apologists - this is all that mattered to me... please address
by AK - Jeff inforget all the other smoke.
b-days, xmas, holidays.
forget doctrine issues.
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those who refuse to accept the premise that Jw's are the 'ark of salvation' in this world - are by Jw doctrine damned to eternal death. That means 6 Billion will die. Would a loving God not make it clear with solid evidence that he was using a particular group?
Jeff, I agree that this is the essential question. However, there is no answer without reading an entire bookshelf full of smarmy little books with colorful bindings. And after you've read all that, it still makes no sense that God would choose such a bunch of clueless knotheads to communicate His thoughts to mankind.