i have been a jw all my life, my sister and i are now in our late twenties and are so unhappy and after desparate attempts to keep up meeting attendance are not spiritually motivated.
we in last few weeks have found some very disturbing things in our search such as the un involvement.
after research on these things and use of the wt library the society speaks for it's self on these issues calling the un the "disgusting thing" that the book of daniel spoke about(wt 85' para.
jgnat,
Thanks for your comment ! What an eye opener of simplicity.Can't believe I repeated "scare" that many times. You are right I am making too much of that . I just want moral children who one day have a mate who provides them with the needs they deserve. Because hopefully they will be worthy of that.
i have been a jw all my life, my sister and i are now in our late twenties and are so unhappy and after desparate attempts to keep up meeting attendance are not spiritually motivated.
we in last few weeks have found some very disturbing things in our search such as the un involvement.
after research on these things and use of the wt library the society speaks for it's self on these issues calling the un the "disgusting thing" that the book of daniel spoke about(wt 85' para.
So sorry to hear about your daughter. She is very young. What were her symptoms? I mean it isn't likely she thought she had cancer with so clean a past. I will pray for her. My prayers have changed at this point. I now pray to my Heavenly Father the god of Abaraham ..is how I address him. Of course I close in Jesus name. I'm still at such a recent phase of all this. I mean it is hard to know how to worship. Before our goal is preaching the good news door to door. I want to be very careful to not get clouded anymore than I have been.
i have been a jw all my life, my sister and i are now in our late twenties and are so unhappy and after desparate attempts to keep up meeting attendance are not spiritually motivated.
we in last few weeks have found some very disturbing things in our search such as the un involvement.
after research on these things and use of the wt library the society speaks for it's self on these issues calling the un the "disgusting thing" that the book of daniel spoke about(wt 85' para.
Reaper . I know what you mean. It is sad the dedication people including my own family put into this. My dad got disfellowshipped a year before his death at age 76. My mom stood by him and after much pleaing they reinstated him on his deathbed 23 hours later he passed. My mom remarried at age 65 less than a year later to a pioneer brother. He is dogmatic as they come. My mom is on anti-depressants still from the loss. This man controls her. My sister and I both baptized at very young ages are respectful to her loving the pioneer work but are concerned at the way this awful man treats her. When we (my sister &I) recently expressed concerns about our teachings in the organization he read our emails to her and now we are considered a write off apostates. We brought up the UN involvement and without their research called liars. My mom did look up the Beth- Sarim info. and though disturbed said those things were 100 years ago and the society (of course) has new light! Since now she has cut me off, I have continued to research things. It is amazing all that I'm learning. It is wonderful the fresh student of the bible I feel like. But then there's this anger toward all the brainwashing I myself was guilty of at the doors of innocent people. Like a fool I backed up our bible which is completely a horrible translation. All these false dates we use to scare people in. URGH!!!!!!! I am so glad I now am not blind. Atleast our Father in the Heavens (as Jesus taught us to address him at Matt 6:9&10 )he knows our hearts. And isn't it funny how simple things start to seem now. Like that scripture! Does'nt it make sense for a true personal relationship we would call him Father not Jehovah? I mean my children do not call their Father by his first name (Gregory) that would be less personal. We are taught the only way to have a personal relationship is to call him by his name. He isn't our buddy , he is our Father ( Our heavenly Father) . If we really wanted a better name to represent us we should have been Kingdom Witnesses. But Hey, Rutherford gave us that name! Look at him. He spent alot of money during the great depression ( society monies) to build a house for The Princes , what a grand display for not our "Father "but himself. He also instituted the Preaching Work. OH! It is so upseting. My husband and I are in a dilema because both our families are 2nd and 3rd generation. We will be so alone. And then the Grandma on his side is always witnessing to my little ones and studying with them. (Their ages are 3girl and 1boy) Yikes! I see this whole thing as a rotten apple now, and I don't want then tainted at all like I was as a child. The only thing I took that was good was my morals. Which I now want to give to my kids but am scared I won't be able to accomplish this without the scare I was given to ingrain it into me. That is probably what scares me most .
hi everyone, i have tried the search function (honest!
) but cant find the posts that i know are here.
tonight in the book study they were talking about daniel using gods name and i remembered reading somewhere that the jws put it in the nwt where it wasn't used.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spent my entire afternoon reading the Link that was provided here.
So impressed, thanks for the webpage link!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I recently had doubts about everything I had been taught growing up as a JW, including what God's real name is. I believe it now is correct to use Jehovah, but believe from my new investigation that Jesus Christ is at one with him in the sense at one time Jesus was only Jehovah "YHWH" and after being born a man he became our ransom The Christ. The Almighty God is 3 in 1 and therefore everything to us! Praise Jah! Hail the firstborn king! May the Holy Spirit be among you! The Alpha and Omega ,the first and the last.(Rev.1:8,17-18; 22:12-13) Thank You!
i have some questions on revelation 20. i have posted verses 7-13 below from the new world mistranslation and put my questions below the verses.
7 now as soon as the thousand years have been ended, satan will be let loose out of his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, gog and ma gog, to gather them together for the war.
the number of these is as the sand of the sea..
Could someone tell me who Abadon or Apollyon of Revelation 9:11 is? Because I have been a JW all my life and have now stepped back to really examine the bible on my on and it does'nt appear that he is Jesus Christ as the WT says he is (WT of 12/1/65) He looks to be the Devil to me. Am I stupid here? I know that Moses preformed a miracle using this name. What is the association? Please help!
i have been a jw all my life, my sister and i are now in our late twenties and are so unhappy and after desparate attempts to keep up meeting attendance are not spiritually motivated.
we in last few weeks have found some very disturbing things in our search such as the un involvement.
after research on these things and use of the wt library the society speaks for it's self on these issues calling the un the "disgusting thing" that the book of daniel spoke about(wt 85' para.
LEGOLAS, Please prove your statement.
8-11; ch.
as in ch.
like the "great crowd", they are "of every race, language, people, and nation (cf.
Wow your thread was indepth and lengthy ...but so awesome your time invested in sharing! I am however having to read and reread to understand your thoughts. When reading Revelation 14:5(They Never allowed a lie to pass their lips and no fault can be found in them) This is speaking of the 144,000, WTB&TS so called Faithful and Discreet Slave . I thought of how that can not be them with all their erred ways ! 1975, 1914 etc... etc.... etc...
i have been a jw all my life, my sister and i are now in our late twenties and are so unhappy and after desparate attempts to keep up meeting attendance are not spiritually motivated.
we in last few weeks have found some very disturbing things in our search such as the un involvement.
after research on these things and use of the wt library the society speaks for it's self on these issues calling the un the "disgusting thing" that the book of daniel spoke about(wt 85' para.
Hi Again to all.... I do appreciate everyone's comments. I bought the book! COC
I can't put it down and have been reading it with my husband. He is as shocked as I am. Obviously Raymond is sincere. But in a way it does'nt surprise me. I mean things are so unbelievably dogmatic.My mom hasn't spoke to me in three weeks.My dad passed away two years ago. They reinstated him on his literal deathbed after many pleas. My mom remarried a year later to a regular pioneer who is extreme. She is hopeless at this point. I just can't believe how us who were born into this are so programmed and brainwashed. It's like even though I reasonably know this cannot be the truth now I am still pulled by a force unknown. I feel so programmed to doubt my own self. Even though the evidence is credible and overwhelming. Much love to all dedicating time to reply to me.
Please post anything that you think I may find intriguing ... I want to learn what is pure!
i have been a jw all my life, my sister and i are now in our late twenties and are so unhappy and after desparate attempts to keep up meeting attendance are not spiritually motivated.
we in last few weeks have found some very disturbing things in our search such as the un involvement.
after research on these things and use of the wt library the society speaks for it's self on these issues calling the un the "disgusting thing" that the book of daniel spoke about(wt 85' para.
Hey everyone I am still here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am just going through alot. At first my husband was almost mad with me for reading anything on the computer, but I was relentless. I mean I'm just apalled by the Freemason position on Russell (33rd Knights Templar) The research I have done on upper ranked freemasons. Their beliefs are not of Christ Jesus. The terms Golden age, Watchtower, Millenium Dawn(early Russellites name) These are the 3 main terms used in Enochian Magic. It is all just a bit overwhelming at the moment.Ra is their God. An Egyptian sun god.
Outside of the fact 607 BCE has to be made up, and we have clearly bounced hither and tither on the Political stance we have with The UN (scarlett colored wild beast). WT 85'para. 12-14 labeled the Disgusting Thing of Daniel's prophecy. WTB&TS part of the UN for 10 years secretly, what was that???? Also page 88 ,1973 True Peace and Security from what source book (para.28)talks about the generation of 1914 not passing away until this system is over. Well wake up they are over 100. Ok so, we have new light on that one. But isn't this false prophesying?Over and over the prophesies of the end and a specific time are piling up. I am currently trying to reason with alot of my family as to why we are not in God's orginization. I don't ant it to be true either. But hey, We simply could not be the religion Christ set up a covenant with in 1914 or whenever because we at that time were into pyramid predictions, using Enochian magic termanology. The pharisees were condemned for their witchcraft! Yes I am upset my belief system is in Shambles! So is my family life. But I cannot stand for this & to sweep my findings under the rug would be wrong of me. I want to be on the side of Christ!
By the way! I really appreciate everyone spending so much time in replying to me. Great answers. I will go back and let you know whose comments really stuck out!
i have been a jw all my life, my sister and i are now in our late twenties and are so unhappy and after desparate attempts to keep up meeting attendance are not spiritually motivated.
we in last few weeks have found some very disturbing things in our search such as the un involvement.
after research on these things and use of the wt library the society speaks for it's self on these issues calling the un the "disgusting thing" that the book of daniel spoke about(wt 85' para.
