Posts by whyizit

"In the box titled "Epistle to Sodom and Gomorrah": "Jude 7 states that those Sodomites underwent "the judicial punishment of everlasting fire." meaning eternal destruction.

This was brought to my attention recently and I just wondered if there are any threads or websites that you can refer me to that have similar comparisons of opposite doctrines being taught at the exact same time by the WTS? Especially in recent years?

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Would Witnesses Kill If Ordered? Probably!

by metatron in

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as a functioning cult, would jehovah's witnesses kill someone, if ordered?

i believe that many would.. while some might think this is farfetched, i can cite some examples that manifest a lack of concern.

for the lives of others, that could easily be extended into murder or manslaughter.. 1) forcing older brothers into jobs at bethel that were far too strenuous for them - as a means of.

whyizit

Remember when Jonesy Boy instructed his followers to drink the Kool Aid? How many died due to an errant belief?

How many more JWs have died due to a lack of vaccinations, organ transplants, and NOW the blood transfusion rule? Maybe they (the WTS leaders) aren't ordering hits like the mob, but they DO kill.

Just my personal opinion, for what it is worth.

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what song best describes your sex life

by karter in

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sound of silence.. as my wife is a j.w all along the watchtower!

!.

whyizit

BTO- You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet!

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Who else is tired of the Just Get Over It threads?

by sass_my_frass in

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i have started this thread so that every time i see a new one i can point out how old that idea is.

congratulations.

it's great that you have obviously been able to get out without being harmed in some way - really, i'm happy for you.

whyizit

AMEN!

This is all part of a very much needed healing process. It is also educational. It helps even those of us on the outside to better understand how hard it is for those coming out. It isn't a matter of "just leaving".

Former JWs are some of the strongest and bravest people I have ever had the privledge of knowing.

"Just get over it?!" That's hard for anyone. I know people who still hold a grudge over issues in high school! Can you imagine someone stealing years of your life, working you into the ground, separating you from your family, preventing you from an education, being responsible for a loved one dying from lack of a blood transfusion, and then not having a thing to do with you, because you found out THEY lied to you?! That's hard to "just get over" on any level!

THIS IS "GETTING OVER IT"! It's coming together with others, making a difference for those who need info., and coming out a better person. Venting and hurting and knowing that you are not alone. Someone else is going through it too.

Thanks so much to all of you who have shared this journey. I have watched so many come out of bitterness, and become effective champions in helping others to get their loved ones beyond the mind control of the WTS. You have helped me so much, and in turn, my JW friend is slowly but surely being freed. I can see it!

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Are there any here that are Catholic? If so I have a question.

by Irish Rose in

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when i was in the 6 grade, i went to school with a girl who was a catholic.

one day she brought to school her rosery beads.

being raised as a jw i had never before seen this thing.

whyizit

I was a catholic in my younger years. Never heard anything about wearing a rosary would cause bad things to happen to you. Just knew that it wasn't a necklace. It wasn't meant to be worn as jewelry.

When I would see kids that were wearing them, I knew they didn't understand that. No biggie! Maybe she was told bad things would happen, because her parents were embarrassed by her insisting on wearing it. It was the only way they knew to get her to stop hanging around her neck.

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Wondering why Witnesses don't ask if meat is bled anymore!!!!

by Witness 007 in

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years ago we were encouraged to ask your butcher if meat was bled....today no one cares!

if it's such a serious sin {like fornication} why doesn't anyone ask has this duck been properly bled?

only, one anionted sister i know washes mince under the tap to get the blood out!

whyizit

My JW friend raises a calf and pig every year. I asked her if they do their own butchering, or if they have someone else do it. She said a butcher facility does it. I told her I wasn't aware that they butchered "kosher style". I got the "duh?!" look. Then she got it! No "reasonable" answer was given.

It's amazing that they call blood and organ, etc... in all the literature, and they allow organ transplants. The liver actually produces blood, and is full of blood when it is transplanted, yet that is okay!

You can also use the synthetic blood that is so bloomin' wonderful, yet it is derived of BOVINE (that would be "cow") blood. Go figure!

White blood cells are forbidden, yet they are in breast milk! Can JWs breast feed their babies? I mean they are EATING the white blood cells in this case, are they not?!

The best one I ever heard was on this forum. Someone said if you needed a blood transfusion and the blood was available, but the equipment to transfuse it was not, would the doctor pour the blood in a glass and have you drink it expecting to get the same results? Of course not! Now why is that?!

Because it is not the same thing!

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My granddaughter 5 mos old passed away today...

by Tatiana in

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she was beautiful.

her name was aliyah.

she would have been 5 mos tomorrow.

whyizit

I can't even begin to imagine how heartbroken you and your family are.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

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A QUESTION 4 CHRISTAINS???

by MR. BORN AGAIN in

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after finding out the "truth" about the lie, including all the wasted time, all the pain and the hurt, all of the disfunction that you are left to deal with...when do you forgive?

maybe you were hurt out of ignorance and maybe they do know that it's all bs, but when do you 4give and pray for them?

whyizit

As soon as you are able, forgive.

Keep in mind, if you are a Christian, that just because a "religion" has misrepresented God, that doesn't mean HE is the one to blame. I used to blame God for everything that went wrong, but looking back, I see that I made bad choices.

I should have done more research, I shouldn't have trusted so soon, etc... These are things I have done myself, in other relationships, no religion involved. Yet, you can apply it to (any) organization as well.

Forgiving sets the captive free, and often YOU are the captive, whether you know it or not.

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i've been hurt by a witness

by tenderheart in

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a jehovahs witness has destroyed my marriage and reputation , she told my husband horrible things about me and told him,.

he's young he should leave me and find some one else, she told every one that would listen that my childrens farther is a peadophile,.

he's never even been to court, so people in the area shun me and my children, she's judgemental she gossips, she's bullied me and my children for years, she's very demanding and is aways after some thing, i fell out with her because i was very depressed and could not cope with her, she's called me terrible things in the street her family have terrorised me and my family in our home, my children have been victimised and accused of horrible things, when i was really depressed she told me i had done nothing for her thats why she is being horrible to me, not one week went by in twenty years when she did'nt ask for some thing, i said no once to her she wanted 80.00 just after the birth of my daughter, she started a row and did not speak to me for 5 years, i'm really hurt as this woman was really hard to cope with she often upset me and i always made excuses for her, turned the other cheek and she turned on me and my children over some thing that should have been sorted out with kindness, i'm so sad i don't know how to stop hurting..

whyizit

Keep records of harrassment, letters, recordings. Get a restraining order! And have your ex-husband see an attorney about slapping her with a defamation of character suit! Or do it yourself on behalf of your minor children. That has to be hugely horrific for them to have to deal with!

She's a nut. She sounds like if she has a brain, she could be dangerous, so don't take any chances.