People actually believed that you could change from being black, to white?!!! They really bought this?!!!! ( I guess Michael Jackson probably isn't helping matters any............)
whyizit
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HELP Please!!!
by RichieRich inok, so remember this guy: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/104535/1.ashx ?.
brief overview... black college professor / lawyer, recently came in the truth... yadda yadda.. well, i worked with him out in service, and we were talking about mormanism, and he said that he knew mormanism was wrong because they once taught that black folks couldnt go to heaven, but then they magically changed and said they could.
so then i asked him how he felt about the society's old stance on black people.
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WHAT IS WT POSITION ON RECOMBINANT BLOOD FACTORS?
by badboy in.
i understand that chinese hamsters ovary cells are genetically modified to produce factors viii and ix.. are they allowed under jw doctrine?
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whyizit
I couldn't believe that one myself. They won't allow human blood, but hamster "stuff" is okay! Go figure!
My JW friend was telling me how people used to infuse blood of cows, etc....and how appaling that is. I said, "I thought that was okay?!" She said, "No way!" I said, "But they allow Hemopure, and it is made from cow blood." Again, "No way!" I said, "Yep! I'm pretty sure. If you find out I'm mistaken, let me know, but I'm sure I have that right. Bovine blood. Bovine is another word for cow, right?" (She lives on a farm and has been a vet tech. :0) )
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Info wanted. What would you do?
by Lady Lee ini have a bit of a dilemma and would like some opinions.
as many of you know i use a wheelchair to get around.
and going grocery shopping is becoming a real pain.
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whyizit
I believe I would make a little bit of a fuss. I wouldn't be beligerent and hateful, but I would defintiely go back and if that same woman is there, I would get her name and ask to speak to her boss. I would also imply that perhaps I might need to get a lawyer, because I feel that I am being treated unfairly, due to my disability. "Surely there must be a law........I've never had this trouble anywhere else....."
If you remember the date and time, that would help them to figure out who this woman was.
I was at a craft store a few years ago where an elderly woman with an oxygen tank was having trouble breathing and needed to sit down to catch her breath. The owner refused to let her have a chair and told her she would have to go somewhere else. They couldn't risk her falling out of the chair. The exhausted lady dragged herself outside onto the sidewalk to a bench. I told her I would no longer be doing business with her and would not be referring anyone else to her store. She must have shown her "kind nature" to others as well, because her store was closed within 6 months. Poetic Justice!
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Advice:How far to press a JW for answers on blood?----and thanks to SKYMAN!
by whyizit inmy best friend of 30 yrs.
has been studying with jws for (on & off) 9 yrs.
she is now going to nearly every meeting and is a stone's throw from baptizm.
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whyizit
She hasn't given me the "would you put alcohol in your veins" line of BS yet, but I am waiting for it to come up. I'm sure it will, unless she doesn't really buy it herself. That is a great comeback, and I am sure I will be using it in the future. A great way of looking at it. Thanks!
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Advice:How far to press a JW for answers on blood?----and thanks to SKYMAN!
by whyizit inmy best friend of 30 yrs.
has been studying with jws for (on & off) 9 yrs.
she is now going to nearly every meeting and is a stone's throw from baptizm.
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whyizit
My best friend of 30 yrs. has been studying with JWs for (on & off) 9 yrs. She is now going to nearly every meeting and is a stone's throw from baptizm. We had a discussion on the blood law at lunch last week, which prompted her to send me an e-mail asking the following questions: 1.) If I told you to read Acts 15: 20, 29-Could you tell me for certain Jehovah is talking about animal blood and not ALL blood? My reply(in a nut-shell): It could be blood of ANY kind, I suppose, but how do you come to the conclusion that it means a blood transfusion, rather than EATing and DIGESTing it? 2.) I personally would not use any kind of blood in any way at all, that way I would not be in the wrong. My reply: That her personal choice to refuse ALL blood, is respected. But that is clearly not how the WT leaders view it in the How Can Blood Save Your Life? publication that SHE gave me. Page 27 allows blood fractions made from stored blood of many donors who are not JWs, yet JWs cannot donate blood or accept stored blood. Page 28 states tissue transplants are okay, Page 8 says that a blood transfusion is a tissue transplant. If stored blood is a bad thing, how is it okay to accept products made from stored blood? 3.) Can bet her eternal life on this only meaning animal blood? My reply: You seem to think my confusion revolves around the idea that this is about animal blood ONLY. That is not it. Based on the entire context of Acts 15, specifically vs. 9-11, isn't it clear that salvation is based on "faith" through "the grace of the Lord Jesus"? Is salvation by any other way, or the loss of it, mentioned anywhere in Acts 15? Doesn't this Scripture deal with issues of fellowship between Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians? Circumcision wouldn't be as openly noticeable (for obvious reasons) but eating would. Couldn't it be that the dietary practices of the Gentiles would need addressed foremost, because they might be horrifying to the Jewish Christians, due to their strict adherence to the O.T. dietary laws? The same concept as discussed in Rom. 14 and 1 Cor. 8? But where in Acts does it imply that you will lose your salvation based on how you respond to the blood instruction? Could you explain how you came to that conclusion from these verses? Didn't Jehovah show His high regard for life by making exceptions for the blood rule? In Lev. 17:15-He said that they could eat an animal they did not kill and it had not been bled. In Lev. 11:39-40- Isn't it speaking as though the eating of a dead, un-bled animal was not an unforgiveable sin? In Deut. 14:21-He clearly told Israel NOT to eat a body that was already dead, but in Lev. 17:15-He gave instructions on what to do if they DID eat something dead. Wouldn't this be good to know, if you were facing the choice of eating something dead, or dying yourself? Jehovah gave them the right to choose life. Doesn't this imply that our lives our more important than observing the blood law? *Here is the answer, condensed version, that I got back: She called her JW guru who explained to her that some JWs think ALL blood is bad, some feel thet components are okay. The WT org. cannot tell you what to do. They merely want to adhere to Bible based principals and can't in good conscience say that blood transfusions are okay. The org. is there to give guidance, knowledge, and support. Tranfusions are up the individual. They do have rules, but when it comes down to it, you have free will. If someone repents of their actions, they are not disfellowshipped. HERE IS MY QUESTION TO YOU: Obviously, many of my questions--if not all--were completely avoided. Should I press her any further, or do you think I would be putting up a barrier between us? I am sure that a lot of what I asked makes sense to her, because she worked in a medical field and is familiar with how they separate blood to get a clotting fraction. I've been told that over-loading the JW with too much is not wise. Do you think I should drop it now? Do you think she has enough to absorb right now? I plan to ask about other areas of the belief as we go along, but I do not want to throw too much at her at once. I'm hoping she will ponder and process this information and come to her own conclusions. I would also like to take this moment to thank SKYMAN for the blessing of his blood letter, of which I borrowed some of for my last response. It is AWESOME! And thanks to all of the rest of you that I borrowed priceless information from in past posts: Blondie, Almost Athiest, and several others.
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Please don't judge dear friends but I'll be pioneering next month...
by stillAwitness inwell, it's memorial season and mom has been giving me the "look" this past week ever since she has decided to pioneer for february and march.
anyways, the thing is i plan on buying a new car in the next couple months.
well, i know how my mom operates.
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whyizit
Maybe you could keep track of the houses that seemed interested, and later, incognito, you could be sure to mail them (or stick one on the door )one of the many "what every JW should be asked" papers that you can find every where on the internet. Then maybe they would be prepared for some serious questions when the JWs return! And you could claim that time as time spent witnessing! Who knows? It could ultimately accomplish the enlightenment of one of the JWs you are with, maybe even your Mom! I kind of see the point of buying a cheaper car, because it is a conflict of interest. But if you are determined to do it, maybe you could use it as a way to try to prevent members, rather than gain them. After all, you Do want to spread the TRUTH, right?
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Matt.27: 51-54 Do you remember WT saying these were bodies tossed about?
by whyizit ini swear that my jw friend told me that matt.
27:51-54 wasn't really speaking of a resurrection, but that the bodies were tossed out of the graves by the quake and only "appeared" to be alive, ....etc.....( they were tumbling around and looked like they were walking, but they were really just dead bodies that fell out of their graves and were moving around because of the quake.).
have any of you heard this before, and could you give me a clearer explanation of how this was explained?
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whyizit
This was very helpful. Thanks!
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Matt.27: 51-54 Do you remember WT saying these were bodies tossed about?
by whyizit ini swear that my jw friend told me that matt.
27:51-54 wasn't really speaking of a resurrection, but that the bodies were tossed out of the graves by the quake and only "appeared" to be alive, ....etc.....( they were tumbling around and looked like they were walking, but they were really just dead bodies that fell out of their graves and were moving around because of the quake.).
have any of you heard this before, and could you give me a clearer explanation of how this was explained?
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whyizit
I knew I didn't dream it! My friend who is studying with the JWs, looked at me like I was nuts, when I told her that a JW told me this. In my KIT, under the Greek words, it says: the bodies of the holy ones, after being raised up of him, "going forth" and being made apparent to many. (this is not a word-for-word quote) My friend is telling me that this means "spirits", but there is nothing in these Scriptures that indicates they are spirits. It says very plainly they are "bodies". Have you got any advice on how to approach this with her?
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Matt.27: 51-54 Do you remember WT saying these were bodies tossed about?
by whyizit ini swear that my jw friend told me that matt.
27:51-54 wasn't really speaking of a resurrection, but that the bodies were tossed out of the graves by the quake and only "appeared" to be alive, ....etc.....( they were tumbling around and looked like they were walking, but they were really just dead bodies that fell out of their graves and were moving around because of the quake.).
have any of you heard this before, and could you give me a clearer explanation of how this was explained?
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whyizit
I swear that my JW friend told me that Matt. 27:51-54 wasn't really speaking of a resurrection, but that the bodies were tossed out of the graves by the quake and only "appeared" to be alive, ....etc.....( They were tumbling around and looked like they were walking, but they were really just dead bodies that fell out of their graves and were moving around because of the quake.)
Have any of you heard this before, and could you give me a clearer explanation of how this was explained? Maybe even show me what books or publications said this. I know I read it somewhere else too, but I cannot find the source.
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Gave Blood Today
by Buster inthe day after i give blood, and for the nest few days, i feel great.
apparently many people report this phenomenon.
i attribute it to all them new red blood cells.
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whyizit
It's SPIRITUAL, brother! You did something that was kind, selfless, and merciful! Someone will be able to spend more precious time with a loved one, because you gave so freely. My brother was spared an early death, because of a blood transfusion, and is now a God-fearing Bible-believing Christian. It wuldn't have been possible without someone like you. Thanks! And God Bless YOU!