yep that's right and it was cash....and i took him to dinner too....what a blast.
my son has been a real pain in the @ss for years, but i love him to death and know that tons of his problems were jw related.
i am a recent fade remember and was a little worried dubs would be at the place when the wait staff sang happy birthday and all.
That has to feel great! More so for you, than your son, it sounds like! Good for you!!!!
That is one thing I really resent about the WTS. My JW friend has always loved Christmas and Birthdays, but now I have to make sure any gift I give her is not misconstrued as a gift for one of those occasions.
It's robbed us of something that was fun and special, and turned it into something to be suspicious of. They (WTS) really suck.
imho....it all needs to go.
its influencing everything in this world every and anywhere.
from the saudies, to the people in irag, iran and anywhere else our sons will need to be sent.. our current president claims he is influenced along with the former prime minister of england by religious beliefs.. there is the huge evangelical influence that got bush and the mess he made who put them in to begin with.. we have the jw's causing absolute havic in anyone's lives connected with this stupidity.. it goes on and on and on.
I've not read everything on this or all of the post, so forgive me if I've missed something. By just looking at the subject question, I would have to say I think that is a good idea. Although I haven't thought it completely through.
I think the growing popularity of non-denominational churches, that teach straight out of the Bible and forego all the ridiculous rules and regulations (such as emphasis on how you dress, membership demands, what you "do", etc...), shows that people are looking for Christian freedom. Not that they don't want to adhere to Biblical standards, but that they don't appreciate Pharisees deciding where they stand in God's eyes. Only God kows our hearts. The guy with the hole in the knee of his grubby jeans may be high and above the guy with the spiffy suit. Jesus didn't hang out with the "religious" groups. Why should I?
what do you like to smell on male/females?.
inquiring minds want to know!!!.
purps.
Female: Elizabeth Taylor's PASSION
Male: Drakkar
There can be too much of a good thing, though. I can't stand when someone bathes in cologne. It triggers a migraine every time.
insight on the scriptures volume 1: aaaron-jehoshua (copyright 1988 wts).
"jesus indicated that people of sodom and gomorrah would experience a resurrection to stand for judgement.".
compared to:.
Insight On The Scriptures Volume 1: Aaaron-Jehoshua (copyright 1988 WTS)
"Jesus indicated that people of Sodom and Gomorrah would experience a resurrection to stand for judgement."
Compared to:
Revelation Its Grand Climax At Hand! 1988 WTS
"In the box titled "Epistle to Sodom and Gomorrah": "Jude 7 states that those Sodomites underwent "the judicial punishment of everlasting fire." meaning eternal destruction.
This was brought to my attention recently and I just wondered if there are any threads or websites that you can refer me to that have similar comparisons of opposite doctrines being taught at the exact same time by the WTS? Especially in recent years?
as a functioning cult, would jehovah's witnesses kill someone, if ordered?
i believe that many would.. while some might think this is farfetched, i can cite some examples that manifest a lack of concern.
for the lives of others, that could easily be extended into murder or manslaughter.. 1) forcing older brothers into jobs at bethel that were far too strenuous for them - as a means of.
Remember when Jonesy Boy instructed his followers to drink the Kool Aid? How many died due to an errant belief?
How many more JWs have died due to a lack of vaccinations, organ transplants, and NOW the blood transfusion rule? Maybe they (the WTS leaders) aren't ordering hits like the mob, but they DO kill.
Just my personal opinion, for what it is worth.
sound of silence.. as my wife is a j.w all along the watchtower!
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BTO- You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet!
i have started this thread so that every time i see a new one i can point out how old that idea is.
congratulations.
it's great that you have obviously been able to get out without being harmed in some way - really, i'm happy for you.
AMEN!
This is all part of a very much needed healing process. It is also educational. It helps even those of us on the outside to better understand how hard it is for those coming out. It isn't a matter of "just leaving".
Former JWs are some of the strongest and bravest people I have ever had the privledge of knowing.
"Just get over it?!" That's hard for anyone. I know people who still hold a grudge over issues in high school! Can you imagine someone stealing years of your life, working you into the ground, separating you from your family, preventing you from an education, being responsible for a loved one dying from lack of a blood transfusion, and then not having a thing to do with you, because you found out THEY lied to you?! That's hard to "just get over" on any level!
THIS IS "GETTING OVER IT"! It's coming together with others, making a difference for those who need info., and coming out a better person. Venting and hurting and knowing that you are not alone. Someone else is going through it too.
Thanks so much to all of you who have shared this journey. I have watched so many come out of bitterness, and become effective champions in helping others to get their loved ones beyond the mind control of the WTS. You have helped me so much, and in turn, my JW friend is slowly but surely being freed. I can see it!
when i was in the 6 grade, i went to school with a girl who was a catholic.
one day she brought to school her rosery beads.
being raised as a jw i had never before seen this thing.
I was a catholic in my younger years. Never heard anything about wearing a rosary would cause bad things to happen to you. Just knew that it wasn't a necklace. It wasn't meant to be worn as jewelry.
When I would see kids that were wearing them, I knew they didn't understand that. No biggie! Maybe she was told bad things would happen, because her parents were embarrassed by her insisting on wearing it. It was the only way they knew to get her to stop hanging around her neck.
years ago we were encouraged to ask your butcher if meat was bled....today no one cares!
if it's such a serious sin {like fornication} why doesn't anyone ask has this duck been properly bled?
only, one anionted sister i know washes mince under the tap to get the blood out!
My JW friend raises a calf and pig every year. I asked her if they do their own butchering, or if they have someone else do it. She said a butcher facility does it. I told her I wasn't aware that they butchered "kosher style". I got the "duh?!" look. Then she got it! No "reasonable" answer was given.
It's amazing that they call blood and organ, etc... in all the literature, and they allow organ transplants. The liver actually produces blood, and is full of blood when it is transplanted, yet that is okay!
You can also use the synthetic blood that is so bloomin' wonderful, yet it is derived of BOVINE (that would be "cow") blood. Go figure!
White blood cells are forbidden, yet they are in breast milk! Can JWs breast feed their babies? I mean they are EATING the white blood cells in this case, are they not?!
The best one I ever heard was on this forum. Someone said if you needed a blood transfusion and the blood was available, but the equipment to transfuse it was not, would the doctor pour the blood in a glass and have you drink it expecting to get the same results? Of course not! Now why is that?!
Because it is not the same thing!
she was beautiful.
her name was aliyah.
she would have been 5 mos tomorrow.
I can't even begin to imagine how heartbroken you and your family are.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
