sKally:
By "human interest" I meant personal stories and/or comments from people in Kansas and Missouri, so the newspapers can SHOW, rather than just SAY, that local people really are personally affected by this issue.
For example, I can tell them that I was raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses and, as a result of what I was taught, have always had the impression that blood transfusions were extremely risky and that non-blood substitutes were always a safer choice even in dire emergencies. But after prayerful consideration of the information in Kerry Lauderback-Wood's article, I realize that I was misled and I've stopped carrying my NO BLOOD card.
Do any of you in Kansas/Missouri have a similar experience to relate?
More dramatic experiences that illustrate the harm the Society's misrepresentations of medical facts have caused, would be even better.
Or if you just want to tell how you FELT after reading the article in the JOURNAL OF CHURCH & STATE, (and give the reporter permission to quote you, of course) that might work.
Does that help clear things up, sKally? Any more questions? Feel free to ask. You might be wondering how the word "local" could apply to two whole States. Well, people are kind of spread-out here. One large newspaper, THE KANSAS CITY STAR is read in both Kansas and Missouri, pretty much statewide, I think.
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ANY OF YOU IN KANSAS OR MISSOURI PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY THE BLOOD ISSUE?
by Scatteredsheep ina couple of newspapers with readers in kansas and missouri may want to do feature articles based on the big news.
for this they'll need some local human interest.
feature articles will help keep the big news alive in people's minds for a long time.
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ANY OF YOU IN KANSAS OR MISSOURI PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY THE BLOOD ISSUE?
by Scatteredsheep ina couple of newspapers with readers in kansas and missouri may want to do feature articles based on the big news.
for this they'll need some local human interest.
feature articles will help keep the big news alive in people's minds for a long time.
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A couple of newspapers with readers in Kansas and Missouri may want to do feature articles based on the BIG NEWS. For this they'll need some local human interest.
Feature articles will help keep the BIG NEWS alive in people's minds for a long time.
Have any of you in Kansas or Missouri ever had a friend or relative die because they refused a blood transfusion? Or have you had any other significant experiences related to the blood issue? Or do you feel you were misled in any way by the medical "facts" on blood published by the WTS? Or has the article in the JOURNAL OF CHURCH AND STATE made any significant change in your belief about blood transfusion? If so, would you be willing to talk to a reporter about it? -
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i managed to get qutoes mirror on a bit more stable server --- http://www.baznica.lv/ro/mulders/wachtowerquotes/ --- you are welcome
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Thanks, Shazard.
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Do you feel that Jehovah drew you away from Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Scatteredsheep ini just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from may/05: "do you miss feeling that jehovah was listening to your prayers?
" that question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question.
about 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help.
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Apostate Kate: You said, “Acts 1:8 - But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Sama'ria and to the end of the earth." (Jesus' witnesses!)” (Sorry, I haven’t learned how to get the quotes to come out highlighted. Any tips would be welcome.)
I think you and others are right about JW’s not giving enough attention to Jesus. On the other hand, Jesus did say, “My Father is greater than I am.” And he taught us to pray to the Father, rather than to him. And the name Jesus means, “Jehovah is salvation.” So apparently we’re to be witnesses of both Jesus and his Father. Is that how you understand it? -
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Do you feel that Jehovah drew you away from Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Scatteredsheep ini just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from may/05: "do you miss feeling that jehovah was listening to your prayers?
" that question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question.
about 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help.
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Apostate Kate: You said, “Acts 1:8 - But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Sama'ria and to the end of the earth." (Jesus' witnesses!)” (Sorry, I haven’t learned how to get the quotes to come out highlighted. Any tips would be welcome.)
I think you and others are right about JW’s not giving enough attention to Jesus. On the other hand, Jesus did say, “My Father is greater than I am.” And he taught us to pray to the Father, rather than to him. And the name Jesus means, “Jehovah is salvation.” So apparently we’re to be witnesses of both Jesus and his Father. Is that how you understand it? -
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Download complete. THANKS VERY MUCH, STEPHANIE!
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Do you feel that Jehovah drew you away from Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Scatteredsheep ini just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from may/05: "do you miss feeling that jehovah was listening to your prayers?
" that question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question.
about 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help.
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lonelysheep: You said, “I did feel that way when I still wanted to believe in their jehovah. “
My heart goes out to you and all the others who’ve indicated that you can’t bear to think of our Heavenly Father as Jehovah anymore because of your experiences in the organization that bears that name. I’m sure Father is willing to have you call him something else, in that case.
Although I do address him as Father now when I pray to him in Jesus name, I grew up knowing and loving Him as Jehovah so it would be very hard for me to give up calling him that sometimes. I hope you won’t stop speaking to me on that account. -
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Do you feel that Jehovah drew you away from Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Scatteredsheep ini just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from may/05: "do you miss feeling that jehovah was listening to your prayers?
" that question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question.
about 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help.
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lonelysheep: You said, “I did feel that way when I still wanted to believe in their jehovah. “
My heart goes out to you and all the others who’ve indicated that you can’t bear to think of our Heavenly Father as Jehovah anymore because of your experiences in the organization that bears that name. I’m sure Father is willing to have you call him something else, in that case.
Although I do address him as Father now when I pray to him in Jesus name, I grew up knowing and loving Him as Jehovah so it would be very hard for me to give up calling him that sometimes. I hope you won’t stop speaking to me on that account. -
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Do you feel that Jehovah drew you away from Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Scatteredsheep ini just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from may/05: "do you miss feeling that jehovah was listening to your prayers?
" that question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question.
about 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help.
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Many thanks to all who’ve responded to my question, so far.
JT, you said "if Jehovah drew one away from the Jehovah's Witnesses" then he is pretty cold blooded to have left about 15-20 million folks behind.
Our Heavenly Father Jehovah hasn’t forgotten those left behind, JT, as the following experience may show:
Recently Father told my daughter (one of the 5 disfellowshipped) to go to the K. Hall and warn the elders who threw us out that they would die because of their “bloodguilt.” Her husband (another one of the 5) was to go with her as moral support and to make sure she got a chance to deliver the message. To condense the account, as she and her husband were being forcibly removed from the K.Hall, my daughter shouted into the ear of the elder next to her, “JEHOVAH LOVES THIS ORGANIZATION [i.e. the PEOPLE in it] AND HE SAYS HE’S GOING TO GET RID OF ALL THE ROTTEN, WORTHLESS ELDERS!”
Later she said, “I don’t know whether anyone else heard me or not.” To which her husband replied, “Are you kidding? Even those back in the restrooms could hear you!”
Jehovah will never abandon any of his sheep. But that doesn’t mean he won’t allow them to suffer at all. We have to be willing to take up our torture stake and follow Jesus.
Java: Yes, 5 of us from 3 families were disfellowshipped. Also, 10 of our collective family members stopped associating because we were disfellowshipped. Since this is a small congregation, the impact was significant, to say the least. More so because for many months afterward, Jehovah had at least one (sometimes all 5) of us attend meetings, regularly. Father said this was to remind them of their guilt. We were like “blood on a rock” as He put it.
We’re not together as a group now because Father says it’s important that we don’t become nor appear to be a sect. But He assures us that he’ll bring us together again in his due time, along with all his other scattered sheep.
So far as I know, I’m the only one of the 5 who’s asked to be reinstated. Father told me to formally request complete exoneration, for the sake of the offending elders because they remain spiritually bloodguilty until this is done. So far, they haven’t exonerated me. It would take a miracle, of course.
Apostate Kate: You said, “the Holy Spirit through Jesus revealed Himself to me in a rather miraculous way.”
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Do you feel that Jehovah drew you away from Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Scatteredsheep ini just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from may/05: "do you miss feeling that jehovah was listening to your prayers?
" that question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question.
about 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help.
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I just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from May/05: "Do you miss feeling that Jehovah was listening to your prayers?" That question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question. About 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after Jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help. Yes, we did report everything to the Society. It didn't help. Instead, we were labeled as demonized because all 5 of us (and our families) believe that Jehovah communicates with us personally, guiding our thoughts with holy spirit. In other words, when we ask him a question, he may and often does, answer us in our minds. We believe he's ready and willing to communicate with anyone who comes to him with humility and respect. Since he drew us away from an oppressive organization that dishonors his name, i.e., Jehovah's Witnesses, he's helped us to see that he'd like us to call him Father, rather than Jehovah, when we pray to him, just as Jesus did. (Can you find anyplace in the Bible, even the New World Translation, where Jesus addressed his heavenly father as Jehovah? For that matter, how many children address their parents by their given names?) So, while I still think of God as Jehovah, I'm coming to know him better as Father. Surely there are some more Witnesses or former Witnesses out there who are aware that Jehovah talks to us personally? Scatteredsheep