jeannie said : Another group of people are the younger witnesses who get off on feeling superior to everyone else. They thrive on the possibility of actually seeing the rotting corpses of people they know and work with everyday who have 'rejected the message'. There will always be sickos, I suppose. I was one of those sickos,and perhaps I was the most sickos of them. I was "spiritual" and made no compromise. But I was the only one young sicko in my congregation. I found it interesting that how sicko I was, I suceeded anyway to leave the Borg. The non-sickos youngs are still in it physically but no mentally. The Borg will die slowly... cause any attacks that it faced, it says it is a sign of "The last days" and people are like : yeah we will not forsake the "Truth"...
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How much time does the WTBT$$ have left?
by TallTexan inobviously, there is no answer to this, i just think it's an interesting ??.
my personal opinion is that within 10 years, the wts will be a shell of it's current (and especially former) self.
it may not even take that long.
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Confessional Privilege
by zack inthe confessional privilege belongs to the sinner, not the priest.
anything said to the priest (clergy of any kind) that is them revealed to others-- even other priests--- would this be a violation of the privilege and if so, could it be actionable?
does anyoner know?
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Dont confess to the elders, cause they report everythings to their wives and theirs wives reports everythings to the entire congregation, it happened to me often...
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How stressed were you as a JW?
by JH ini don't know about you guys, but it stressed me alot to be a jw.. i never did like talking in public, in front of a group, or going door to door.. gee, i hated the tms meeting.
the moment i knew that i had a talk, i became nervous and often i had a hard time sleeping.
just knowing that i had to talk for 5 minutes in front of the whole congrgation got me nervous weeks ahead of time.
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Being interviewed by 700,1400 and 7000 brothers and sisters stressed me a lot but after i was feeling glorious cause of the congratulations (please Lord forgive me lol). I didnt feeled stressed that much since i have inner skills for giving talks and reading. But what stressed me was to show a good impression for the sisters so I would be viewed as a good future husband. We (bachelors brothers) were calling that "making points"....
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Panic Crisis after talking to JW
by Genesis init's very strange what happened to me those days.
right now im leaving the borg and moving from my appart(im with a pioneer).
im keeping myself informed and right now im reading crisis of conscience by raymond franz.
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Thank you all, it means a lot to me. Im glad to know that there is other people out there that have lived the same experience than me. Im moving this week end to my fathers house and I think it will help me to cure. And for the one thats suggested me to read "Combatting Mind Control Cult", I have ordered it a week ago and still waiting for it and im glad to know i made a good choice by buying it. Thanks again and may God see the good in our Heart. Genesis
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Panic Crisis after talking to JW
by Genesis init's very strange what happened to me those days.
right now im leaving the borg and moving from my appart(im with a pioneer).
im keeping myself informed and right now im reading crisis of conscience by raymond franz.
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Hi there. It's very strange what happened to me those days. Right now im leaving the borg and moving from my appart(im with a Pioneer). Im keeping myself informed and right now im reading Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz. So I know that the Borg is not the truth and that ill not die in harmageddon and I feel well. But when I talk to a Witness or read a post of a Witness that says stupidity like we are deceiving people and come from Satan, it hurts me and I begin a sort of Panic Crisis. I feel bad i think that all the time I knew in my heart the the JW are the Truth and that I am leaving it willfully. So I calm myself by reading "apostate" stuff. Does anyone have the same problem ? Maybe when I will be disfellowshiped and will not talk with any JW I will feel better. I know objectivly that this come from my brainwashing (was raised in the "truth") but emotionnaly I feel bad. Any advice comments or opinions ? Genesis
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Seriously though, how CAN the WTBTS Book Publishing Corp...
by sf in...stop the information that the marvelous tool the internet provides all who seek its inner workings?.
what will they actually be able to do about the momentum of facts, backed by documents and other evidence, that seem to be gaining at a faster pace these days?.
would they, could they actually hear a miraculous voice that of jehovah telling them that the internet is a tool of satan and then produce a scripture the flock would see as divine guidance through the gb, thus through a new article {new light} that they must give it up completely?.
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Dont Worry too much for the JW children. I was one and by the internet I was able to free my mind (it takes 2 shots but i suceeded) and this time no elders or overseers will make me go back in the Borg. The Youth wont stay in the borg, they go to nightclubs and they miss meetings. The WT is dying, they have nobody to replace the brothers and sisters that dies and leave...
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First Christmas and a list of new goals
by Genesis inhi friends, first, thx for your posts it gave me more courage.
yesterday i went to montreal and i celebrated christmas for the first time.
i met my worldly uncles aunts and cousin that i havent seen for years.
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Hi Friends, First, thx for your posts it gave me more courage. Yesterday i went to Montreal and i celebrated Christmas for the first time. I met my worldly uncles aunts and cousin that i havent seen for years. Everybody was suspicious but I charmed them all by humor and love. We ate food and drink and they unwrapted (humm maybe its not a real word) their gifts, i felt cheap to have no gift for them (i didnt even thought of buying gift). There were 3 D'Fed of my family and I entertained them by saying that i was compting my time right now with them.
But i felt overwhelmed. My consciese was hurting me all the way long. I think i did an overdose of "worldy" practices... but that was cool anyway, next year ill more enjoy it and ill buy gifts. I am waiting for Crisis of Consciense by Raymond Franz and Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steve Hassan. I am eager to read ! I will move to my father house here in alma, and i do not return phone calls from Brothers. i think ill write a letter of Dissociation to have the peace of mind and not have the elders harrassing me.
And ill just begin learning Breakdancing, Tekwondo (now i have the right), Guitar and Drums (already play them but will practice more), Bodybulding (continuying without guilt), Chess, NLP, Seduction (ive already began), apostasy (hehe).
If you doubt that ill have the time to do those thing while on a full time job, youre wrong ! Im free and ill learn them all !!!!!!!!!!
I will decide if i go back to school or do a move to another province with my brother to learn english (for 1 or 2 years).
But first, ill have a girlfriend, priority # 1 !!!!!!!!!!! Im learning seduction thats hard but ill handle it !
Thx for reading, feel free to comments,
Merry Christmas all,
May the freedom be with you !
Genesis
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First Christmas and a list of new goals
by Genesis inhi friends, first, thx for your posts it gave me more courage.
yesterday i went to montreal and i celebrated christmas for the first time.
i met my worldly uncles aunts and cousin that i havent seen for years.
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Hi Friends, First, thx for your posts it gave me more courage. Yesterday i went to Montreal and i celebrated Christmas for the first time. I met my worldly uncles aunts and cousin that i havent seen for years. Everybody was suspicious but I charmed them all by humor and love. We ate food and drink and they unwrapted (humm maybe its not a real word) their gifts, i felt cheap to have no gift for them (i didnt even thought of buying gift). There were 3 D'Fed of my family and I entertained them by saying that i was compting my time right now with them.
But i felt overwhelmed. My consciese was hurting me all the way long. I think i did an overdose of "worldy" practices... but that was cool anyway, next year ill more enjoy it and ill buy gifts. I am waiting for Crisis of Consciense by Raymond Franz and Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steve Hassan. I am eager to read ! I will move to my father house here in alma, and i do not return phone calls from Brothers. i think ill write a letter of Dissociation to have the peace of mind and not have the elders harrassing me.
And ill just begin learning Breakdancing, Tekwondo (now i have the right), Guitar and Drums (already play them but will practice more), Bodybulding (continuying without guilt), Chess, NLP, Seduction (ive already began), apostasy (hehe).
If you doubt that ill have the time to do those thing while on a full time job, youre wrong ! Im free and ill learn them all !!!!!!!!!!
I will decide if i go back to school or do a move to another province with my brother to learn english (for 1 or 2 years).
But first, ill have a girlfriend, priority # 1 !!!!!!!!!!! Im learning seduction thats hard but ill handle it !
Thx for reading, feel free to comments,
Merry Christmas all,
May the freedom be with you !
Genesis
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Help Needed
by Genesis inhi there its my first post here and i need some help (sorry if im on the wrong board).
in march 2005 i was very weak spiritualy and began to read apostate litterature.
by one month i was wishing to quit the wts.
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Thanks all, I appreciate your help very much. As the time goes by, I feel more determinated to leave. Tonight there was a message on my answering machine of My first bible teacher, my mentor, the man that had saved me from my last apostary struggle and kept me in the "Truth". His voice was painful... i felt bad but it wont change my decision, IM FREE FREE FREE FREE !!!!!!!! I think that i will ask to be disfellowshipped cause whenever a brother or sister talk to me it hurt me, hurt me to see him (her) with pain for me and it make me feel bad for a day so Id better be leaved alone from them...
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Help Needed
by Genesis inhi there its my first post here and i need some help (sorry if im on the wrong board).
in march 2005 i was very weak spiritualy and began to read apostate litterature.
by one month i was wishing to quit the wts.
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Hi there its my first post here and I need some help (sorry if im on the wrong board). In march 2005 i was very weak spiritualy and began to read apostate litterature. By one month i was wishing to quit the WTS. But in the same time I became depressive and suicidal. I met the elders but they did not convince me. Waht happened is that 2 days before the day i planned to ask to be excommunicate, my first bible teacher called me and reasoned me (if i had plan to speak with him but not let him convince me) but when i was talking to him something happend and I wanted to turn back and return in the organization. They accepted me (i havent went too far) and I returned fully in the WTS. But after 5 month i have the same doubts that come back, but this time I dont want to take a decision fastly because i do it will be too hard to cope and i dont want to become depressive again (im becoming but trying to stop it). I neither wanted to read apostate litterature yet nor to read all the WTS. yesterday i argued about my doubt with one my friend JW but today i will bad. I dont know what to think.... But the fact is that im tired of the fear. The fear of the gods wrath, of dying in Harmagguedon of being disfellowshipped of bein a mean person..... I think its not God love. And im tired of having others saying waht to think, that I should not do Bodybuilding or read about Neurolinguistic programmation of even having a girlfriend, im 19 and i never held the hand of a girl. Can you help me by pointing me ways to leave but without too much pain or becoming depressed. I think that maybe i should replace my social circle before leaving, job and thoughts and then when i will have a backup frame i will leave the old one... last time i moved too fast (within one month i became apostate and returned as a model brother :S) Please give me your opinion... -------------------Heres another postof myself from another board----------- Im no more at home, i used to leave with my grandmother since i was 15 because my mother and father were disfelloshiped (not at same time). My brother and sister ahve left too. Normally I was considered as the Saved One of the family, the strong ( I have even did 3 different Interview at 3 different congress (in front of thousand people) about that. Im in a appart with a young Pionneer (hes now at his class of pionnership). I have a question to ask you people : Are you afraid, outside do you sometimes that youre wrong and the end of the world is coming soon ? How do you feel your spiritual needs ? Sorry for my English, im from Quebec canada...