Hi Brothers and Sisters (i like this expression :D). It just to say that yesterday I sent my letter of dissociation and that there is no coming back possible for me. Im out, Im free. Tuesday I will be announced at the Kindgom Hall. Finally I dont move to my fathers house Saturday but Instead to my cousins house tonight (He had left JW 10 years ago and is like my brother). Yesterday I met a very beatiful girl and I kissed for the first time. So Im calm and happy of the ending (or beginning) of those events. Thank you again for your support ! Cheers, Genesis
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Good News
by Genesis inhi brothers and sisters (i like this expression :d).
it just to say that yesterday i sent my letter of dissociation and that there is no coming back possible for me.
im out, im free.
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All messed up, please help !!!!!!!!!!
by Genesis inok this morning i wrote about panic crisis so i think i have one now.
i was on the forum and in my mailbox there was a message that said me :.
i could not help but feel for you very much.
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Thank you all, Tonight was a very useful night :
1. I had you answering me and encouraging me
2. I read pages 150 more of Crisis of Conscience and that book is superb !
I feel calm now and I dont plan to have anymore Panic Crisis (see the positive vocabulary, as if I "planned" to be disturbed).
Oh I havent wished you things for 2006 by the way :
Happy New Year, may 2006 brings you : Peace of Mind, Health, Pizza and no more WussTower...
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All messed up, please help !!!!!!!!!!
by Genesis inok this morning i wrote about panic crisis so i think i have one now.
i was on the forum and in my mailbox there was a message that said me :.
i could not help but feel for you very much.
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Sorry for my Panic Crisis. Thank you again for your help. I promise I wont post against when on emotionnal disturb ;). Jeannie spoke to me about Triggering Words in my mind and I think she was very right (Thx Jean) so Ill stay from this sick vocabulary and delete it progressively in my head.
Thank you again
Genesis
ps: Thas me beeing interviewed at de District Assembly on the picture...
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All messed up, please help !!!!!!!!!!
by Genesis inok this morning i wrote about panic crisis so i think i have one now.
i was on the forum and in my mailbox there was a message that said me :.
i could not help but feel for you very much.
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Ok this morning i wrote about Panic Crisis so I think I have one now. I was on the forum and in my mailbox there was a message that said me :
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I could not help but feel for you very much. I am an 'oldie' in the truth and have several sons and have gone thru a few dramas in life, which seems to catch us all. However, please, no matter what, never lose your faith that there is a Creator, that there is no real alternative to there being a Creator, AND THAT HE MUST CARE FOR HIS CREATION ENOUGH TO GIVE US SOME INSTRUCTIONS - HENCE THE BIBLE.
Oops sorry i am not the world's best at typing. But please relax, read Phil 4:6,7 again , maybe even Hosea chapter 11, where God speaks no kindly toward mankind, and maybe Jonah the last chapter where God was worried not just about the people of Nineveh but even the animals! And James 2:13 too.
There are some very hurt people here on this site, and some who show little wisdom, but there is room for all to listen and learn. I am now 68, have been in the truth and baptised at 13, and still find it easy to respect and love the brotherhood.
Just remember haw Jesus feels about his 'congregation' as in Rev.chapters 2 and 3, no matter how awful they were, did the bible say Jesus didn't love them? No, and much like the organization today, if there have been changes and wrongs done, does Jesus want to destroy his group of sincere followers, even if they or their overseers get things wrong? hardly.
So 'genesis', keep calm, don't jump from 'the frying pan into the fire', I would like to believe you are smart enough to keep close to the brotherhood rather than split away on your own and leae the truth, remember that back in times past in the bible the Jews were more blessed by going to Jerusalem to worship than to build an altar in their own back yard, and the Christians were more blessed by sticking with the apostles no matter how poorly some of them were, etc. Just think of all the ones in the Bible that God used, most all of them left much to be desired as humans, but in their human way they loved God and he loved them---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So I am about to move to my father (DF'ed) house in 3 days and will probably be DF'ed for Apostasy. I was sure but thats those kind of message that all mess me up. Reality cant be this, the WT cant be Gods organization for all the frauds and claims they have made, i dont care if they preach in 230 country and are Worldly United... God wont destroy anybody besides Jehovah's witnesses. Sorry, im stressed.
Can you comment, reply or whatever ?
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How much time does the WTBT$$ have left?
by TallTexan inobviously, there is no answer to this, i just think it's an interesting ??.
my personal opinion is that within 10 years, the wts will be a shell of it's current (and especially former) self.
it may not even take that long.
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jeannie said : Another group of people are the younger witnesses who get off on feeling superior to everyone else. They thrive on the possibility of actually seeing the rotting corpses of people they know and work with everyday who have 'rejected the message'. There will always be sickos, I suppose. I was one of those sickos,and perhaps I was the most sickos of them. I was "spiritual" and made no compromise. But I was the only one young sicko in my congregation. I found it interesting that how sicko I was, I suceeded anyway to leave the Borg. The non-sickos youngs are still in it physically but no mentally. The Borg will die slowly... cause any attacks that it faced, it says it is a sign of "The last days" and people are like : yeah we will not forsake the "Truth"...
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Confessional Privilege
by zack inthe confessional privilege belongs to the sinner, not the priest.
anything said to the priest (clergy of any kind) that is them revealed to others-- even other priests--- would this be a violation of the privilege and if so, could it be actionable?
does anyoner know?
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Dont confess to the elders, cause they report everythings to their wives and theirs wives reports everythings to the entire congregation, it happened to me often...
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How stressed were you as a JW?
by JH ini don't know about you guys, but it stressed me alot to be a jw.. i never did like talking in public, in front of a group, or going door to door.. gee, i hated the tms meeting.
the moment i knew that i had a talk, i became nervous and often i had a hard time sleeping.
just knowing that i had to talk for 5 minutes in front of the whole congrgation got me nervous weeks ahead of time.
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Being interviewed by 700,1400 and 7000 brothers and sisters stressed me a lot but after i was feeling glorious cause of the congratulations (please Lord forgive me lol). I didnt feeled stressed that much since i have inner skills for giving talks and reading. But what stressed me was to show a good impression for the sisters so I would be viewed as a good future husband. We (bachelors brothers) were calling that "making points"....
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Panic Crisis after talking to JW
by Genesis init's very strange what happened to me those days.
right now im leaving the borg and moving from my appart(im with a pioneer).
im keeping myself informed and right now im reading crisis of conscience by raymond franz.
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Thank you all, it means a lot to me. Im glad to know that there is other people out there that have lived the same experience than me. Im moving this week end to my fathers house and I think it will help me to cure. And for the one thats suggested me to read "Combatting Mind Control Cult", I have ordered it a week ago and still waiting for it and im glad to know i made a good choice by buying it. Thanks again and may God see the good in our Heart. Genesis
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Panic Crisis after talking to JW
by Genesis init's very strange what happened to me those days.
right now im leaving the borg and moving from my appart(im with a pioneer).
im keeping myself informed and right now im reading crisis of conscience by raymond franz.
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Hi there. It's very strange what happened to me those days. Right now im leaving the borg and moving from my appart(im with a Pioneer). Im keeping myself informed and right now im reading Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz. So I know that the Borg is not the truth and that ill not die in harmageddon and I feel well. But when I talk to a Witness or read a post of a Witness that says stupidity like we are deceiving people and come from Satan, it hurts me and I begin a sort of Panic Crisis. I feel bad i think that all the time I knew in my heart the the JW are the Truth and that I am leaving it willfully. So I calm myself by reading "apostate" stuff. Does anyone have the same problem ? Maybe when I will be disfellowshiped and will not talk with any JW I will feel better. I know objectivly that this come from my brainwashing (was raised in the "truth") but emotionnaly I feel bad. Any advice comments or opinions ? Genesis
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Seriously though, how CAN the WTBTS Book Publishing Corp...
by sf in...stop the information that the marvelous tool the internet provides all who seek its inner workings?.
what will they actually be able to do about the momentum of facts, backed by documents and other evidence, that seem to be gaining at a faster pace these days?.
would they, could they actually hear a miraculous voice that of jehovah telling them that the internet is a tool of satan and then produce a scripture the flock would see as divine guidance through the gb, thus through a new article {new light} that they must give it up completely?.
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Dont Worry too much for the JW children. I was one and by the internet I was able to free my mind (it takes 2 shots but i suceeded) and this time no elders or overseers will make me go back in the Borg. The Youth wont stay in the borg, they go to nightclubs and they miss meetings. The WT is dying, they have nobody to replace the brothers and sisters that dies and leave...
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