Posts by Shazard

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One more biblical proof that WT 607BC interpretation is wrong

by Shazard in

was reading through jeremia .

so everybody knows jer .

1 the word came to jeremiah concerning all the people of judah in the fourth year of jehoiakim son of josiah king of judah, which was the first year of nebuchadnezzar king of babylon.

Shazard

Was reading through Jeremia

So everybody knows Jer
25:
1 The word came to Jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, which was the first year of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.
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9 I will summon all the peoples of the north and my servant Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon," declares the LORD, "and I will bring them against this land and its inhabitants and against all the surrounding nations. I will completely destroy [a] them and make them an object of horror and scorn, and an everlasting ruin.
10 I will banish from them the sounds of joy and gladness, the voices of bride and bridegroom, the sound of millstones and the light of the lamp. 11 This whole country will become a desolate wasteland, and these nations will serve the king of Babylon seventy years.
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So when the word came. It came at the begining of Nebuchadnezzar and he promised some punishment which will last 70 years. And punishment will start with Nebuchadnezzar invasion into Judea.
But did you noticed also
Jer 27:
1 The Lord spoke to Jeremiah1 early in the reign of Josiah’s son, King Zedekiah of Judah.
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Notice timing... EARLY in Zedekiah
Read verse 6 (check out, context is the same)
6: I have at this time placed all these nations of yours under the power of my servant,King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. I have even made all the wild animals subject to him.
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It is fulfilled what he promised allready. But notice the timing... Jerusalem is still standing and if you read more chapter 27 then there is talk about not letting Temple stuff be taken away... so Temple is still standing, but God's promise in Chapter 27:9 is allready fulfilled and 70 year coundown is allready happening.

And again one more proof that 70 years started before Jerusalem destruction!

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Ever Notice This About The Bible?

by Undecided in

jw
friends

the words anger, kill, destroy, wipe out, as a group occurs more times than love in the bible?

doesn't this tell us something of god's nature?.

ken p.

Shazard

It tells about human nature.
Till 5 years of age I thought that my name is "shutup"

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Anybody ever had their Aura photo taken?

by Bumble Bee in

jw
friends

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i had mine done a few weeks ago, and also my chakras.. my colours for my aura photograph were predominately green with some blue.. if you've had yours done, what colours showed up, and do you think the interpretation was correct?.

bb.

Shazard

I am aware of two phenomen called "aura photo".
One is Kirlian effect, that actually is Corona Discharge, and it depends on the surface you are photographing. Not aura, but the Gas (air) starts to glow because of pure phisics.
Second is pure fake. In general it is electromagnetic field measurment and then fancy software "enchances" simple photo by colored spots which does not have anything with aura. Also there are some specific "aura" photocameras, which actually has light diods build in them, and when you are photographed, then some parts of the phtoto tape is lightened by the diods. You don't see the diods as they are hidden in the camera itself. Similar "aura" you get sometims when you photo and some sidereflection falls into photo camera.
You have been fooled! Interesting how much $$$ you spend to get fooled?

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JW's and the Cross

by Honesty in

why is it so offensive to a jw when a person mentions the cross?

Shazard

Does JW tells their supporters that upright stake or pale is fallistic symbol and it is of pagan origin. All the obeliscs, idol stakes are just like that - upright stake or pale. Does JW supports teaching that Jesus was crucified on fallistic symbol?

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I did it

by Shazard in

and not i but god.

i got one jw out of the borg.

atleast today he admitted that borg is sect.

Shazard

Good thing is that JW in our country are not so well organized and so strong, so they don't have much qualified resources to follow each of their members. This guy was just seeking for God and have tried in meny places, the last one JW, and he admitted that they make him to feel guilty and somewhat depressed. Later he started this "fading" stuff, and then he stumped on me (or me on him) in one chat and word by word I introduced default Christian view on Jesus Christ. Seems that this did it. I promissed support!
Thanks to you people, coz knowing that people are getting out of borg helps me to believe that God through me can reach them too in my country! Borg sucked in my own brother, atleast I got payback getting one man out of borg. But ofcourse I am looking forward for my brother!

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I did it

by Shazard in

and not i but god.

i got one jw out of the borg.

atleast today he admitted that borg is sect.

Shazard

Christians is the biggest danger for the "truth" :)

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I did it

by Shazard in

and not i but god.

i got one jw out of the borg.

atleast today he admitted that borg is sect.

Shazard

And not I but God. I got one JW out of the borg. Atleast today he admitted that borg is Sect. Also he listened to gospel and accepted truth, that Jesus is answer, not borg. Ofcourse I don't know what really is happening in his heart, but his answers and reactions are NOT JW like actions. It was about month when we started. And the start was just talk about different things. I told how I understand Jesus Christ. At the begining we evend didn't talk about Jehova and JW, but only about Jesus! And it seems worked. Holy Spirit is doing his job in the man's heart. Thanks to God :) I pray God that he does not fall back into borg.

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can i ask

by KW13 in

yo people, a question...

witnesses are studying the daniel book and i wanted to know if i can prove any of the prophecy in there is wrong, for example what book or resource can i prove 607bce is wrong.

Shazard

Jer 29 and Ezekiel 40 (or 41 don't remember) shows that Exile to babilon started before destruction of Jerusalem ATLEAST by 10 yars (actually about 20 years).
Read final chapter(s) of 2nd Chronicles and 2nd Kings, there you can restore the events and timeline. And you will get that
70Years started with Nebukanezzar invasion into Judea in 606 BC (Jer 25), Jerusalem was destroyed 19 years later and as Prophets told - left such until 70years were fulfilled. Jerusalem indeed was destroyed until end of 70 year period whichs started 20 years before destruction of Jerusalem itself (with 2 sieges before it) And 2 waves of Exile. About Waves read Jeremia!

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Saved by grace or by works?

by rootofallevil in

according to the wts if we do not produce acts of good work (feild service, attending 5 meetings weekly, circuit and district assemblies etc), we are not worthy of salvation.

according to the bible, we attain salvation through god's undeserved grace ( or kindness in jw lingo).

what i am looking for is scriptural proof that will shoot down the first and support the latter.

Shazard

In Christianity it is hard to define all "good works" you have to do. Coz according to Bible God gives different gifts, there are different tasks for the members of his flock. Each one is gifted with different talents, skills and Spiritual gifts so eachone can bear fruits of grace according to God's not men's plan! So it is stupid to ask for smith to do same work as president, or ask teacher to do same good works tailor does! God knows better what talents to give. And by your response to these talents your heavenly reward will be calculated. But entrance to heaven itself is for free just by faith!

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Saved by grace or by works?

by rootofallevil in

according to the wts if we do not produce acts of good work (feild service, attending 5 meetings weekly, circuit and district assemblies etc), we are not worthy of salvation.

according to the bible, we attain salvation through god's undeserved grace ( or kindness in jw lingo).

what i am looking for is scriptural proof that will shoot down the first and support the latter.

Shazard

p.s. problem with this gift is that you are changed by Holy Spirit... changed in image of Jesus Christ, so your natural "Me" dies. So for people who loves their current state more then Jesus, they are left with dieing nature of fleshy men