So... as allways, problem of deduction is what premises you choose!
If they will be wrong, conclusion will be wrong.
Several your premises are wrong!
BTW men never rights any book. Books are wrtitten by ink and/or keyboard! Even holy books!
Interpretation premise of yours is wrong.
I even without deep reading of your post found 2 WRONG premises. But deduction needs only ONE wrong premise and it guarantees that you will get wrong conclusion.
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HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS PARADOX?
by Terry inreligion tells us that man has a damaged consciousness polluted by sin.
religion tells us that man cannot think or reason on his own power.
religion teaches us that .
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New 607 Website
by TheListener ina pro jw 607 website.
check it out.
if you're loved ones start searching the net for proof of 607 they may regurgitate some of the info.
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One more (I know JW does not believe in bible what it says when it says against their believes) anti 607 proof only from bible alone.
Read Jer 29:
1 This is the text of the letter that the prophet Jeremiah sent from Jerusalem to the surviving elders among the exiles and to the priests, the prophets and all the other people Nebuchadnezzar had carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon.
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10 This is what the LORD says: "When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my gracious promise to bring you back to this place.
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Now check... verse 10 is in the SAME letter Jeremia is writing in Verse 1 FROM JERUSALEM to all the people carried into EXILE.
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Read verse 10... LORD is comforting (well kind a) Exile poeple that 70 years will pass when they can return. So here are facts.
Jeremia is writing from Jerusalem (so it is still in places) to people in exile (allready) and tells them about 70 years. So I guess that these 70 years are atleast from begining of THE people exile. So people getting this letter was comforted that they will be in exile no more than 70 years, but Jeruaslem STILL standing.
The 2 verses for HONEST men will prove that begining of exile and 70 years IS NOT the same as destruction of Jerusalem. The 2 verses shows that Jerusalem is STANDING when 70 years and exile has began.
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New 607 Website
by TheListener ina pro jw 607 website.
check it out.
if you're loved ones start searching the net for proof of 607 they may regurgitate some of the info.
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Ouh common... Their Daniel age calculation portion runs into lies even without deep check.
They argue, that Daniel was trained for 3 years, but on 2nd year of Nebukanezzar he interpreted his dream. So they conclude that it was 2nd year over Jews... 2nd year of destruction of Jerusalem. But they miss whole point. That Nebukanezzar invaded Jews when he was not officially king of Babilon, only on next year he became and it is very well with Bible.
Point is that they miss all stuff about king Jojakim (dunno how it is in english bible). Simple search proves that Daniel was taken to Babel 19-20 years before Jerusalem Destruction, on the first year of Nebukanezzar. This is math in range of 100, and JW are not able to do that. This site is CRAP, I even don't need any secular proof to find errors in their reasoning. -
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New 607 Website
by TheListener ina pro jw 607 website.
check it out.
if you're loved ones start searching the net for proof of 607 they may regurgitate some of the info.
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BTW, fridnds, just several days ago I got one idea in my head and run to check it and it prooved to be right. Ofcourse extensive check should be done, but here what I found:
Book of Daniel NEVER mentions Israel or Judea as COUNTRY or LAND! Instead Daniel refers to Judea as to it's capital - Jerusalem. Daniel refers to "jewish people" or "your people - when somebody else talks", but no Isreael. This prooves my suspisious that similar as Isaiah, Daniel refers to Jerusalem as to whole country. Jerusalem identifies whole sacred land! It is in sync with Jeremia who told exactly that LAND will be desolated for 70 years (and whole neigboring lands too).
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Mind Control Alert - Watchtower Article - simplifying your life -
by jgnat inwt january 1, 2006,"how firm is your trust in god?
an anonymous young man with a family is described as quitting a job because it interfered with meeting attendance.
can you see yourself taking a similar step if you were in circumstances like his?
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Yeaaaa... I will never bee JW as my thinking patter would drive nuts the "teacher" if he would ask me so stupid questions.
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Do you support gay marriage?
by chappy inis your belief moral, social or practical?
would you feel the same way if there were absolutely no religious influence on the matter pro or con?.
regardless of your belief, does every adult have a fundimental right to marry anyone of his or her choosing, regardless of gender?.
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No
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Isaiah 65
by KW13 inisaiah 65 v 20 something does say "or an old man who does not live out his years" so surely that means for the witnesses using that scripture, there isn't everlasting life?
i am not an expert so please be kind to me
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Do not mix FOREVER (till end of Time, which was fullfilled by Jesus) with lifespan of people
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Christians - Do you believe the flood occurred?
by AlmostAtheist inwhen i was a bible believer, i accepted the flood.
the frozen mammoths and seashells on mountaintops were "evidence", but the only needed proof was simply that the bible said so.
as a christian, do you believe the flood story?.
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Yes I believe!
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Disproving An Earthly Paradise
by Diogenes intwo elders are coming round to "shepherd" me next week.. i've been reading the article available by jon mitchell?
about rev:7 discussing the 1980 w.t which is full of lies about naos and hieron.. i'm going to bring this w.t up but i know the elders will mention the scriptures in psalms 37 and isaiah to prove that there is an earthly paradise.. is there a good logical way to refute these scriptures?.
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Psalm and Isaiah speaks about Messianic time. Spiritual freedom in Christ. Christ is one who makes lions to live togeather with sheeps and babies can play with snakes. Think Christ - then you will understand EACH scripture.
Also - In Mat 5:17 Christ told that he came to Fulfill prophets and law. On the chros in John 19:30 Christ affirms that "everything is fulfilled". So in Christ you inherit the Earth, NOW is Messianic time, NOW 1000 years are happening, NOW there is first ressurection in Christ through his Word of Gospel. Kingdom of Heavens starts on Earth. -
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Quotes update: Free to publicly comment on the action
by Quotes infor the newbies, this post is a follow up on my situation regarding the watch tower's law suit against my due to my watch tower quotes web site.
for the background on the story so far, see these threads:
quotes website receives "cease & desist"
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Quotes, thanks for your work. I managed to get running mirror site too. Thanks for your work. God using you gave us very powerfull wepon against WT