When I read those verses about "coming quickly" i get the sense that he is saying that it will catch us off guard. I just hope it doesn't happen until this season of 24 ends cuz I really got to see it.
Kristofer
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Are you worshipping a false prophet?
by scout575 inat matthew 24:30 jesus predicts his second coming, saying that he would appear: "in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
" in verse 34 he goes on to say that: "this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
" jesus is prophesying that his second coming would occur during the lifetime of his contempories.
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HELP in love with a jw woman
by kornnjw ini love this jehovah witness, and she is driving me crazy with her meetings, watch tower booklets, conventions.
of course i do sometimes go to her weird kingdom hall.
i'm finding stuff about her i hate, like...only go on dates shaberoned don't drive with a singel guy and a single girl cus it looks bad they say.
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Kristofer
i'm dealing with the same situation currently. Although at the moment, we aren't really talking...we seem to be drawn together like magnets... It's a difficult one. But JW or not, anyone that starts threatening suicide is not someone to be in a relationship with.
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So, why didn't Jesus write anything down?
by poppers interry's thread on who is right - jesus or paul, got me to wondering; why didn't jesus write anything down?
surely he would know that the things he said would be written down at some point, and that this would be the beginning of misunderstanding what he was saying.
secondhand accounts of spoken words have a way of changing dramatically from the original words.
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Kristferdeanmartin??? Love it!
I think it's hard to say it was the Jewish idea of deity since many of the Jews rejected Christ and didn't expect deity to come as a humble son of a carpenter.
When you say other cultures idea of deity...can you give me some examples?
If you talk about Bhuddism or Hinduism, it wouldn't be accurate to say since they don't believe in deity like Christians do. If you are referring to Mohammed, he was never referred to as being a deity. Who do you mean?
And the other guy...i forgot your username...but I was saying Faith in our Creator, an eternal, all powerful, holy being. Truth in learning his will and purpose. -
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So, why didn't Jesus write anything down?
by poppers interry's thread on who is right - jesus or paul, got me to wondering; why didn't jesus write anything down?
surely he would know that the things he said would be written down at some point, and that this would be the beginning of misunderstanding what he was saying.
secondhand accounts of spoken words have a way of changing dramatically from the original words.
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JamesThomas,
Just to clarify, when I say personal relationship, I don't mean that Jesus is my "pal".
What I do mean is what I have been blessed to learn about God through his aid in my life, through nature and the very life I have around me. I believe, and don't expect anyone else to believe, that the Bible is the best understanding we have along with nature, the universe & cosmos of God. Definitely eternal, definitely vast. I can only hope to grasp a glimpse or shred of understanding. I think Jesus was and is that shred. He is who makes God known to us.
God is definitely not for a chosen few but to whoever chooses to open their hearts and minds.
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January 15 Watchtower: Angels
by GramblingMan ini'm here looking at my wifes watchtower mag and it has a drawing for the angels, maybe it's me but all the angels are white men and they have beards.
i'm oversensitive or is this a message they are sending out to the readers.
i thought the anointed ones are suppose to become angels?
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can you post this picture?
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So, why didn't Jesus write anything down?
by poppers interry's thread on who is right - jesus or paul, got me to wondering; why didn't jesus write anything down?
surely he would know that the things he said would be written down at some point, and that this would be the beginning of misunderstanding what he was saying.
secondhand accounts of spoken words have a way of changing dramatically from the original words.
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JamesThomas...no offense taken. I understand what you mean. I also think there is a difference between having men tell you what God's divine plan is and trusting in the God you have come to know personally.
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So, why didn't Jesus write anything down?
by poppers interry's thread on who is right - jesus or paul, got me to wondering; why didn't jesus write anything down?
surely he would know that the things he said would be written down at some point, and that this would be the beginning of misunderstanding what he was saying.
secondhand accounts of spoken words have a way of changing dramatically from the original words.
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I think we need to trust in God's divine plan. I think there is something to be said about an exercise of "faith".
I suppose we can ask, why doesn't Jesus just show up when we have a question and be like "hey guys! Here i am. I am real so I'll see ya when you croak! Any questions?"
I think there is a reason he veiled the eyes of Mary and some of the disciples right after his ressurection. A lot has to be said about someone who makes the effort to search for truth, to care enough and to exercise hope and faith. -
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Whose in LA???
by freedomlover inhey you apostates, i'm going to be in la for a trip the end of march.
wanted to see who was out that way because it looks like i may have some time to do a little socializing.
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I'm here in LA
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Trinity pamphlet, - a response & research
by Kristofer ini'm not sure how much of this is old news to y'all but after being handed this literature, i was trying to find evidence on the ante-nicene fathers it quotes in this pamphlet.
i figured, if early christians didn't believe in it, then, to me anyway, the doctrine held some water.
i stumbled upon this essay by eric francke which is a direct response to the pamphlet and very well written in my opinion.
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I see a couple of problems here,
#1. You are using Lamson's interpretation of Justin when you could just as easily go to the source and see what Justin has to say.
#2. I don't know how you can dodge dishonesty here. Saying that justin called the prehuman Jesus a "created angel" is a flat out LIE! Yeah, sorry..but that's dishonest. Show me where he calls Jesus a "created angel" and I will take back my accusation.
Justin does say:
"The Jews, accordingly, being throughout of opinion that it was the Father of the universe who spake to Moses, though He who spake to him was indeed the Son of God, who is called both Angel and Apostle, are justly charged, both by the Spirit of prophecy and by Christ Himself, with knowing neither the Father nor the Son. For they who affirm that the Son is the Father, are proved neither to have become acquainted with the Father, nor to know that the Father of the universe has a Son; who also, being the first-begotten Word of God, is even God."
I also don't see anywhere where Justin refers to Jesus as inferior.
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WT quoting things
by badboy ini notice that the wt does a lot of quoting from various sources eg.
for their creation/ecolution and their magazines.. do they ever check whether their sources of information are reliable?.
what does all this quoting `prove', when i can do selective quoting that `proves' fairies exist, give me various books about fairies and i could cut and paste to `prove' fairies exist
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if you want to see how the WT takes quotes out of context and misleads, check the topic i started called Trinity Pamphlet. There are a couple of links there that might be of interest. There was also a reply post there with a new link I've never come across before. The "Should You Believe in the Trinity" publication is full of misleading quotes.