It's been about a year since I've been on this board. And what brought me here was me (a non-JW) seeing a JW girl. I've been out of this situation for a while now. But looking back on the situation with a clear head, I realized I fell for a girl that wasn't real. She lied about SO many things. Some things were so trivial there was no point in lying about them. But I was amazed at how easy it was for her to lie. I mean, I was a secret the entire time we were together so she was lying to her family as well. I have a theory about this. I figure since she grew up in such a restricted and judgemental environment, lying became something she learned to do well. What do you all think about this? Does growing up in the JW environment cause you to be more loose with the truth? Do you think her behavior is a direct link to her JW-ness? Or do you think she is just deceptive aside from her upbringing.
Kristofer
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Are JWs chronic liars?
by Kristofer init's been about a year since i've been on this board.
and what brought me here was me (a non-jw) seeing a jw girl.
i've been out of this situation for a while now.
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Maybe There's a Heaven...
by LittleToe ini don't often open up discussions on my beliefs or experiences in life, but i feel a need, so please excuse me if you feel it untoward.
neither is this a poxy swan-song, i'm just opening up my heart a little.. today i had cause to reflect on a conversation i had with my [now ex-]wife shortly after my epithany.
everything was so new and unknown.
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Kristofer
LittleToe, You are so articulate! The words you have expressed have come across so genuine and with so much heart. I'm floored!!
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Maybe There's a Heaven...
by LittleToe ini don't often open up discussions on my beliefs or experiences in life, but i feel a need, so please excuse me if you feel it untoward.
neither is this a poxy swan-song, i'm just opening up my heart a little.. today i had cause to reflect on a conversation i had with my [now ex-]wife shortly after my epithany.
everything was so new and unknown.
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Kristofer
LittleToe, You are so articulate! The words you have expressed have come across so genuine and with so much heart. I'm floored!!
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Christian Love
by youcanhaveago inok this is the first thread i have ever started.. .
i have decided to live my life on one premise .
basically that jesus christ said that he had one commandment - love one another .. .
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Kristofer
I agree!
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Italian Nun Murdered; Possible Link to Pope's Remarks
by Kenneson inin somalia, gunmen shot to death an italian nun, who worked in a hospital which serves mothers and children.
this came only hours after a leading cleric condemned pope benedict for his remarks on islam and violence.
some think there may be a connection.
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Kristofer
Hey Asheron, Do you mind telling me what the facts are that disprove the existence of God? I find the arguement about evil in the world not very strong. First, that question asks what type of God exists, not the actual existence of God. To assume that he would do something assumes that you know more than He/She does. Also, I find this kind of arguementation a far cry from "facts." Facts usually assume science, and science only tests the measureable and the physical. So would you consider yourself an implicit atheist? I enjoy the discussion :-)
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Italian Nun Murdered; Possible Link to Pope's Remarks
by Kenneson inin somalia, gunmen shot to death an italian nun, who worked in a hospital which serves mothers and children.
this came only hours after a leading cleric condemned pope benedict for his remarks on islam and violence.
some think there may be a connection.
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Kristofer
that's a misnomer...Since atheism is based on lack of evidence, you won't find any support for any ideology, including doing good for anyone just as you won't find it supporting murder in the name of anything, you won't find it supporting good in the name of anything either. Secondly, being what the nature of Atheism is...the fact of the matter as the previous posters have shown with their links, more people were killed under atheistic leadership than any religious leadership. It shows that lack of God or lack of faith isn't any more peaceful or better.
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If the Apostles "expected" Jesus to return in the first century is that fp?
by booker-t inwhat is the "difference" between what early christians and biblical prophets did in expecting jesus to return in the 1st century and what jw's have done for over 100 years of false expectations?
i am in no way trying to excuse jw's and their false prophecies but why is it so different when born-agains and other christians set a date for something but when it fails no body says one word about it.
but when jw's and mormons do the same thing all hell breaks loose.
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Kristofer
Narkissos, your 2nd Thes reference says "at hand" rather than "already here" in most translations I read. if you read the next two verses it talks about what must happen first. I'm really interested in this false prophecy/date setting especially when it comes to the Catholic Church. Does anyone have references for this?
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NWT inserting Jehovah in the NT (discussing the "J" references)
by AuldSoul ini wrote most of this in response to drew sagan, in a thread that wasn't really about this issue.
when i read back over it, i figured it need a thread of its own.. the first part of the puzzle is in appendix 1d of the nwt reference bible.
they list all "237 places where the name jehovah occurs in the main text of the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures.
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Kristofer
What's also interesting is where they decide NOT to translate Kurios into Jehovah.. Philippians 2:11 ..."jesus christ is (lord)(jehovah)(Kurios) to the Glory of God the Father."
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If the Apostles "expected" Jesus to return in the first century is that fp?
by booker-t inwhat is the "difference" between what early christians and biblical prophets did in expecting jesus to return in the 1st century and what jw's have done for over 100 years of false expectations?
i am in no way trying to excuse jw's and their false prophecies but why is it so different when born-agains and other christians set a date for something but when it fails no body says one word about it.
but when jw's and mormons do the same thing all hell breaks loose.
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Kristofer
can you cite the sources?
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Is their a religion that matches our biblical knowledge and experience?
by JH inafter spending years with the witnesses, and the knowledge we have now, is there a religion that matches our biblical knowledge and experience?.
i think that we are way beyond any religion that exists, and that's why we stay out of religion today..
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Kristofer
I was never a witness but my involvement has led me away fom religion/church. I'm still a Christian and I miss that kind of fellowship where you discuss things in the light of Christ.