Interview With Gary Colin Bible Symbolisms Meaning -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As teenagers, Walter and Gary discussed the religion of Islam, the Bible and other thought provoking topics. Gary Colin is the Author of the controversial book, "Bible Symbolism What It Means To Your Salvation (ISBN 1-4241-0152-2)". This Book is Published by Publish America (http://www.publishamerica.com ph 1 301-695-1707 fx 1-301-631-9073). The Interview Follows: WK: Well Gary you were always writing something. For anyone who doesn't know, Gary and I were in a band called the Creators. We wrote our own material. So I'm not surprised that you (Gary) have become a published writer. I am very interested in your subject matter. Gary, you claim that the Bible is now fully understandable and all its mystery is revealed. That is an amazing assertion since mankind has had the Bible for centuries. GB: Well Walt, no one is getting any younger (Gary laughs). At some point in the history of human kind, God would eventually reveal His Biblical mystery. Read Revelation 10:6-7. God tells us there that in the Day of the Lord, God's Mystery would be revealled. WK: Gary, are we in the Day of the Lord, now? GB: This is where it gets a little philosophical. God "IS". That means that God is the I AM. God is always existing and will never cease to exist. This is what the Bible means when it says, "God will never die". When we understand that explanation, then we realize that we humans have always been in the Day of the Lord. That's why the Bible uses words like, "Come Quickly", and "To Day you will be with me in Paradise", and "In the Day of you eating of the fruit, you will positively die". Yet, from a human understanding, God has not "Come Quickly". The criminal on the cross Did not go into Paradise on that Day, and Adam did not die on the literal day of his fruit eating. It is humans' responsibility to learn how God defines words and actions in the Bible. When we do that, we will not be confused or deceived. WK: I'm very confused (the men both laugh). Is the Day of the Lord a literal event, or is it just a phrase, or a state of mind because God Is Always Existing? GB: Oh no! The Day of the Lord is definitely a future event for humans and God's physical creation! But for God, it is just Him bringing back to Himself what He emitted during the creation. We are all "Sons of God", because we all came from that Great Spirit. WK: Oh ok. Well explain to me and those who will read this interview what the "Day Of The Lord" really is, and what will happen on that "Day"? GB: Ok. And I'll use Scriptures to support my assertions. The Day of the Lord (Revelation 1:10) is the End of God's Physical World. God calls this Day, the Time of the End, The Last Day, anything denoting a Finality or Final Judgment of this Physical World (Daniel 11:40-44; Daniel 12:1-7; Revelation 1:10; John 6:39-54). The Day of the Lord is the time when God destroys His entire physical world in fire. He then supernaturally changes the phsyical, which the Bible calls "flesh" into Oneness with Himself. Thus this "New Thing" is "Spirit". This is the Beginning of the New Thing. Whenever the Bible talks about the "Beginning", "the Spirit", or the "Son (Begotten), it is referring to this Regenerative Transfiguration from Flesh to Spirit (2 Peter 3: 5-13; Matthew 25:31-46; 1 Corinthians 15:47-54; Revelation 17:16; John 17:17-22; Genesis 1:1-4; John 1:1; Matthew 19:28; Matthew 17:1-15). WK: Is God burning everything on that day or is He just burning sinners? GB: God revealled His Regeneration plan through various religions and philosophies through out His physical creation. For whatever reason, He wanted Christianity to perceive the Last Day with a "right/wrong" mentality. This should not seem strange. God also led His ancient people to believe that the Law was essential for salvation. Yet, when Jesus came, Jesus did many things to show the inability of Lawful obedience to please God. I really don't know why God wanted things to be such a big mystery, but it still is each humans responsibility to seek out God for His directions. The religionist of Jesus' day chose to kill him rather than follow what The Holy Spirit was obviously showing them. WK: So then, is Christianity wrong? GB: Christianity did a great job teaching us about our Spirit Heavenly Father. Like the Law, Christianity did a great job showing us how unworthy we humans are of God's salvation. But Christianity has failed to keep up with what the Spirit Saith (Revelation 2:7). God is now preparing humans on planet earth to understand the Regeneration. Our next step is fiery entrance into Heaven. Elijah the Prophet was one symbolic example of this (2 Kings 2: 11). WK: I'm not done with your assertion on Christianity not keeping up with the Spirit. But did Elijah really go into God's Heaven? Wasn't Elijah seen on earth after this event. GB: As I said, God symbolically used Elijah to symbolize the Day all humans are burned in God's fire and "made" into Heavenly angels. Read Psalms 104:3-4. God's angels, are fiery ministers, chariots of fire. They are also Spirit. Elijah symbolically "entered" heaven as an angel in chariots of fire. Jesus said that any one going to heaven would be as the Angels (Matthew 22:30). Those Spirit angels will be called God's Son (Revelation 22:7). The phrase, "God's Son" is symbolic terminology. "God's Son" means the Day when God the Father ends His physical world and Regeneratively Begets Himself with His physical creation into God the Begotten Son. This "New Thing" is God the Man Being Born Again with His physical creation. That's why the Bible always talks about Death and Resurrection (John 3:1-16). WK:This is very confusing! And yet, as a Black Muslim, I've heard others speak similar beliefs. Let's get back to Christianity. Why hasn't Christianity preached any of this information? GB: Ironically there are some Christians who preach God will become One with humans at Heavenly entrance. There are some Christians who have embraced my book. Christianity's mistake is that they failed to regularly and consistently study the word of God. A person's relationship with God is Interactive. We are to regulary talk with God, study God's word, and grow with God no matter how busy or occuppied we are. Some people feel that it is sin to doubt or question God. Yet, Jesus and Moses Interacted with God and questioned Him. It is good to note that Paul was also an Intellect who analyzed the scriptures (Exodus 15:24-25; Matthew 27:46; Acts 17:2). There is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning God's word and stating to Him, "Father, this doesn't make sense. Father, how can this belief or teaching be correct?" WK: So are you saying that any person can use the Bible to "see" what you are asserting as long as they are willing to question the Bible? GB: We humans are complicated. We don't always seek truth in situations. Sometimes we let our hearts or ulterior motives get involved. It was either Jehu or Jehosophat who made a promise to the Lord which ended up "sacricing" his daughter to the temple. At times, Peter was more interested in his ego, than he was in the will of God. In cases like that, the truth can be right in front of us and we won't accept it. God does stir Bible readers one way. Yet, it is diligent Bible study and connecting those events and word associations which leads to the ultimate meaning of the Holy Bible. WK: And what is the Ultimate meaning or teaching of the Bible. GB: The ultimate meaning of the Bible is that on the Day of the Lord, God will Cease revealling Himself to humans as God the Father. He will burn His physical creation in fire, and He will change the physical flesh into Oneness Himself which is Spirit. This is why God Rest on His Sabbath End of the Week. This is why He Refreshes or Regenerates Himself during His Sabbath Rest (Hebrews 3:4-Hebrews 4:1-12; Exodus 31:17; 1 John 3:2). WK: Gary, don't you feel that you are being a little naive. There are thousands of religious beliefs world wide. The Bible has been studied and explained for milleniums. Why now would you and only you have the Bible's ultimate meaning? GB: God calls as God calls. God reveals as God reveals. In my opinion, I think that God is preparing humans on Earth for a great Spirit experience. He is giving humans the opportunity to know Who He really is, just as He gave humans the opportunity to really know Jesus. Humans don't always listen to what the Spirit is saying to them (Revelation 2:7). WK: So if humans don't listen to God or to what you believe is from God, what will happen. GB: Ultimately, God's plans will continue to occur as He plans them to occur. Humans will just miss that great opportunity of knowing the Great Spirit! WK: So who dies on Judgment Day? Judgment Day is a belief of Muslims as well. GB: All physical creation will "die" or be totally burned on Judgment Day. This burning is 2nd Death. 2nd Death is total destruction. 2nd Death occurs before the Everlasting Lake of Fire and Brimstone. This Lake of Fire and Brimstone is also hell. WK: But isn't that unfair? Are you telling me that God is going to kill the sinners with the good people? GB: (Gary smiles). Who really is not a sinner (John 18:38; John 8:7; Romans 5:12)? In God's definition, we humans are all worthy of eternal death. Yet, those the Blood of Jesus, and God's plan, God will kill us in the flesh, and change us into Spirit to be One with Him (Acts 20:28; John 17:19-23). (Gary smiles again). Walt, you sounded like Abraham begging God for mercy, but no "good" persons were found (Genesis 18:24-33). Genesis 18 and 19 both explain how everyone will go down into that "lake of fire and brimstone". This is where the Regeneration will take place. The Regeneration is the fiery change from Flesh to Spirit. And God calls this change "GAT" or BEGAT" at Exodus 24:16-18 and at Genesis 19:27. Genesis Chapter 18 and 19 speak alot about going "down" or down ward connotations. "Down" or "under" (Genesis 18:8; Revelation 12:1) in the Bible is symbolic of physical 2nd death. Physical death is the first step in total destruction. The second step of total destruction is the lake of fire and brimstone. This everlasting lake of fire and brimstone will End this world. The "New Thing" will be created. The GAT process will have occurred and God's people will Stand Before God (Genesis 19:27; Daniel 12:1; Genesis 19:1; Luke 24:1; Revelation 11:3-12). They will "Come On UP", They will "Rise Up" to be with God on that Last Day of the Lord. That Day of the Lord is the Spirit's eternity. WK: Interesting. There are alot of metaphysical, scientifical, and new age beliefs out there in this world. Where do you fit in with those beliefs. GB: (Gary smiles again). I just do what God tells me to do. God is Behind everything that occurs in His creation. Thus I am in tune with whatever God expresses to me. Most religious people will have a problem with me. Yet, they donot understand that Jesus came to planet earth to show them what the Law, the sacrifices, and all their religious symbolism pointed to. The people chose to stick with their belief system even if that meant killing Jesus. WK: So where do you go from here? You written the book that God gave you to write. Now what? GB: To be honest with you, Walt. We're long time friends. I either want to get busy preaching the Regeneration ministry. But if God expects me to wait like Moses waited (40 years), and the disciples, then i'll probably "go fishing" (Gary smiles). WK: Well why would God make humans wait if God's message is important? GB: God has His own time table. And God has a sense of humor. He enjoys dwelling with humans through all our dysfunctions. Just read how Jesus interactive with His disciples. Jesus was quite the comedian. WK: Gary, people will want to ask you this question. Why you? If what you are saying is really from God, why were you called and not some one else? GB: God moved me to be Spirit Inclined from my earliest childhood. I was studying the Children's Bible at age 7. I always wanted to know the Truth. I was always studying any Bible literature I could get my hands on. I'm not taking any credit. It was God Who called me to do His will. It was God who bought alot of test and trials in my life to help me focus on His truth, and not on the "truth" spread by religious minded people. WK: What's the difference between God's truth and the truth of others? GB: God's truth is to walk with Him, to walk in wisdom, and to enjoy life. The Religions of today make the same mistake that the Religions of Jesus' day made. These religionist teach beliefs and rules that they can't even follow. Thus hypocrasy and greater sins occur. WK: So are you saying that Religion and worship is not neccessary? GB: I am saying that nothing is more important than the understanding and actuation of the True God's will. WK: What advice would you give modern religionist? GB: I am blessed from God with His Truth. I had to study whatever God presented to me to study. I went from religion to religion. I went from teacher to teacher. I was in a cult and made the mistakes that cult followers make. But all of that was worth it to get God's truth. God kept both His promises at Proverbs 2:1-7 and John 8:32. WK: You said that God may be planning to visit planet earth with Supernatural events. Could you elaborate on that belief? GB: God is the King of Setting people up! Jeremiah said, "Lord, You fooled me!". Jesus said, "My God, Why have You forsaken me". God set Adam and Eve up to desire that fruit. That fact that God made Adam wait so long to receive Eve would cause a strong desire not to displease her. God is very Interactive. And He loves Hype Things. He calls Himself the Manly God of War (Exodus 15:3). I often call Him, "The Drama King"! God has given planet Earth His Final Truth, which is the Regeneration (Matthew 19:28; Revelation 10:6-7), they can not use the excuse that God did not tell them (Genesis 3:4-5). God will send Supernatural events which will bear testimony that the Great Spirit is Alive and Well in human affairs (Judges 2:1-7). WK: All because they didn't want to read your book? (Walter laughs). GB: I'm just a very, very small part in God's plan. My job was to write that book and get it published. And I want to thank Publish America for publishing God's Book. God will greatly bless their publishing company for their support. WK: Well, I guess it times to wrap this up. Is there anything else you want to say? GB: I thank-you for the interview. I thank Publish America for their support. I invite everyone to a free viewing of my book. You can also purchase the book. The website address with all information is http://www.webspawner.com/users/comingagain -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free Webpages Purchase Bible Symbolism What It Means To Your Salvation Free Viewing Of Bible Symbolism What It Means To Your Salvation Gary Colin Use The Holy Bible To Disprove Cults Such As Jehovah's Witnesses Gary Colin Uses God's Bible To Disprove False "bibles" such as New World Translation