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  To StiLLinTruth

  by LoneWolf in

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  this is only the second post that i've made on this board, so i hope that by posting this a second time, that i'm not violating some rule that i'm unaware of.

  if i am, then i apologize to all.. however, this answer to stillintruth is on the fourth page of his last post, and i want to make sure he and as many others as possible can see it.. you will note that i sign my real name to the bottom of this.

  that is meant as an open challenge to any and/or all to do something about it.

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  Amen to that brother.
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  THOUGHT PROVOKING QUESTIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!

  by d0rkyd00d in

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  i printed these questions from a website long ago, and loved them to death cuz they freed me from that god-forsaken religion.

  i challenge any witness to answer all of them in their entirety, since the true religion stands against all falsehood.

  please note that these are from scriptures in the new world translation, used by jehovah's witnesses.

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  I printed these questions from a website long ago, and loved them to death cuz they freed me from that God-forsaken religion. I challenge any witness to answer all of them in their entirety, since the true religion stands against all falsehood. PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE ARE FROM SCRIPTURES IN THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION, USED BY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. ALSO, I GOT THIS FROM A WEBSITE, BUT I FORGOT WHICH ONE. PLEASE DO NOT SUE ME FOR COPYING.

  1) Jn 1:3 says that Jesus created "all things", but in Isa 44:24, God says that he "by himself" created the heavens and the earth and asks the question "Who was with me?" when the heavens and the earth were created. How can this be since if Jesus was created by God, then he would have been with God when everything else was created?

  2) The Watchtower Society teaches that the 144,000 of Rev 7:4 is to be taken literally. If chapter 7 of Revelation is to be taken literally, where then does the bible say the 144,000 will come from?

  3) The WTS teaches that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will not reside with Christ in his heavenly kingdom. How then do you explain Mt 8:11 in which Jesus says,"But I tell you that many from eastern parts and western parts will come and recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens?"

  4) If Jesus was executed on a torture stake, with both hands together over his head, why does Jn 20:25 say "...Unless I see in his hands the print of the nailS...", indicating that there was more than one nail used for his hands?

  5) Jesus uses the phrase "Truly I say to you,..." over 50 times in the bible. IN the NWT, the comma is placed after the word "you" every time except in Lk 23:43, where the comma is placed after the word "today". Why is the comma placed after "today" instead of after you "you" in this verse? If the translation of this phrase in Lk 23:43 was consistent with the translation of this phrase in all the other verses in which it appears, and the comma was placed after "you", how would it read?

  6) If Christ will not have a visible return to earth, then how will he be seen by "ALL the tribes of the earth" (MT 24:30) and by "EVERY eye" (Rev 1:7) when he returns?

  7) If the spirit of a man has no existence apart from the body, why does Stephen just before his death in Acts 7:59, pray to Jesus to "receive my spirit?" How could Jesus receive Stephen's spirit if a man's spirit ceases to exist when the body dies?

  8) In Rev. 19:1, where does it say the "great crowd" will be?

  9) In the sermon on the mount, when Jesus was addressing the "great crowd" (lk 6:17), why did he tell them in Lk 6:22-23, "...your reward is great in heaven..."

  I'll have more later. I'm tired of typing for now.

  "No cool quote yet. But i'll think of one soon."
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  Subliminal Messages?

  by d0rkyd00d in

  1. watchtower
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  the posts on the previous topic brought this question to my mind.

  a while back, i was looking at a website that had so called "proof" of subliminal pictures.

  what i liked most about the site was it debated the topic from both sides, supporting the subliminal pictures and then chopping it down, leaving you, the reader, to make the decision.

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  The posts on the previous topic brought this question to my mind. a while back, i was looking at a website that had so called "proof" of subliminal pictures. What I liked most about the site was it debated the topic from both sides, supporting the subliminal pictures and then chopping it down, leaving you, the reader, to make the decision. The site was closed down for some reason, but it was interesting to think about. Does the watchtower really use subliminal messages in their pictures? i admit, some were a bit far-fetched, but to me, some seemed to be pretty unmistakeable. Whatcha guys think?

  "No cool quote yet. But i'll think of one soon."
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  HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

  by waiting in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

  " how mundane!.

  fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

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  HI. I'm 16 years old, and i was baptized at age 10. Not really a sufficient understanding of the bible was needed, just one of the watchtower's rules and regulations. When i was 15, my older sister, who was baptized with us as a family, started cutting herself due to fear of armageddon. she opened the door for me. after she left, i followed, and my parents followed after that. we faded thank god, so no shunning came upon me. I did lose my best friend, but i now realize that he was only my best friend partly because we shared the same religion. I just wish i could've saved him. anyways, nice to meet everybody.
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  after so long....

  by 30years in

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  this is my first post in any network such as this.

  i have been "lurking" around the "apostate" sites for the last year or so.

  i am glad i have!

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  Hi 30. This board is a great place, and i too would love to hear your stories as an elder. All of the above posts apply to this one, and i'd like to add that losing some friends is a small sacrifice to getting your life back. I lost my best friend of 5 years because i left, but soon after, i began to realize he wasn't my best friend simply because i liked him. it was because we were in the same religion. now i have REAL friends, and i only look back sometimes. it feels good to have my life back. but like all the others said, take it SLLLOOOOWWWW.
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  How much longer will the organization last????

  by d0rkyd00d in

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  this question came to me while i was answering "nature's call".

  too much info?

  but this is when my best thinking is done.

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  Thanx for your thoughts everybody. When I tried discussing this issue with my mom, she just simply stated the Witnesses fall back scripture about the "greater number cooling off". I told her I think this scripture doesn't apply to only the witnesses, but the world in general's love cooling off for religion. Whatcha guys think?
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  An interesting thought....

  by d0rkyd00d in

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  hey.

  sorry bout all the posts by me lately.

  i'm beginning to annoy myself.

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  Hey. sorry bout all the posts by me lately. i'm beginning to annoy myself. but here's a question i like turning over in my head, raised by a picture of somebody on the board ( that of an alien head ).

  I'm fascinated with UFO's, and extraterrestial beings. they absolutely boggle my mind. Maybe it's because part of me wants something better than what is on this earth right now. I don't know. You can imagine how i felt after reading an Awake! stating UFO's were Satan's way of distracting followers of the truth. LOL. anyways, what do you guys think would happen if suddenly alien life was discovered? do u think there would be upheaval in the organization, or do you think they would work it into their "NEW LIGHT" system some how?

  "No cool quote yet. But i'll think of one soon."
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  How much longer will the organization last????

  by d0rkyd00d in

  1. jw
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  this question came to me while i was answering "nature's call".

  too much info?

  but this is when my best thinking is done.

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  This question came to me while i was answering "nature's call". Too much info? probably. but this is when my best thinking is done.

  Just wondering, how much longer does everybody think the organization will go on? It's been going on for quite some time, but with so much emphasis placed on this being the "time of the end", how much time will it take before people begin to realize nobody knows when it will come, and therefore cannot judge the time of the end. I mean, things could definitely get worse than they already are. I believe medieval times were worse than those today. So how much longer will this religion go on? I also wonder this as i see so many people getting tired of the religion, even after being in for so many years, and still leaving.

  "i don't have a cool quote yet, but i'll think of one soon."
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  What did you do?

  by StiLLinTruth in

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  to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.

  come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.

  the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?

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  I don't know how anybody like yourself still could be so proud of the religion with the largest number of clinically depressed people on earth. Happiest organization? heh heh heh.....
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  PLEASE READ ME! I'm not sure where to post....

  by d0rkyd00d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm so glad i am finally allowed to post my messages.

  they have been building up for quite some time, since the other message board wouldn't let me register because i felt uncomfortable putting what congregation i was with at the time in the appropriate box.

  i'd like to start off by saying i love this discussion board, and i'm glad so many people are finding help here.

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  Hi everybody! i'm so glad i am finally allowed to post my messages. they have been building up for quite some time, since the other message board wouldn't let me register because I felt uncomfortable putting what congregation i was with at the time in the appropriate box. But here i am at last!

  I'd like to start off by saying i love this discussion board, and i'm glad so many people are finding help here. I didn't really have help. But i'll tell everybody my story if interested. now, time for the topic i would like discussed.

  I have by no means lost faith in God. I think he is the most wonderful being, which is clearly expressed throughout his creations. However, something has plagued my mind every since researching the witness ( and all other ) religions. Jehovah's witnesses, like so many religions, have shown God to be one similar in my mind to acting like Satan. I mean, why would a God who is repeatedly mentioned in the bible as a "god of love" destroy millions, perhaps even billions in some all ending war? After I began pondering this fact, more questions arose. Jesus is the spittin image of God, correct? When mentioned in the Bible, Jesus is the most gentle human being i could ever imagine. He was kind and merciful. Could you picture Jesus killing billions of people just because they did not believe in him? Doesn't sound like an all forgiving God to me.

  It goes back even further than this, however. It is mentioned in the Bible that God helped fight many wars for certain peoples. Seeing to it that several small armies were killed and the like. Why would a loving God do this? moreover,would a God who hates violence and is the definition of love kill hundreds of thousands of people, simply for the fact that they did not worship him in the way he pleased, or did not worship him at all? i'm really not understanding here. To me, this seems more like a short tempered toddler than an all powerful, all loving being.... can somebody please explain this to me?

  One more question. sorry bout the long post. but it's my first. feels good to get this off my shoulders. If i understand correctly, God allow us to have free will WITHOUT intereference. which is why we are here today, overflowing with famine, disease, hunger, and all the rest. Why, then, would God choose to interfere with certain wars, making sure that they were won? wasn't he supposed to not interfere at all? could there be the slightest possibility that it was a simple coincidence that these armies walked into the war saying we have God's blessing, and then got lucky and slaughtered them?

  AAAAhhhhhhh. finally finished. please, if anybody would like to try to clear this up for me, i'd love to hear your responses.

  "No cool quote yet. But I'll think of one soon."