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Posts by D8TA
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by Sirona ini personally know of 2 people who have seen unidentified flying objects.
just recently i stumbled across this site http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.hurley/ which claims to show ancient paintings which have flying saucers in them.
are these paintings genuine?
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This is my story
by Dolphin57 insomeone every special to me referred me to this site.
i dont really know where to start so i will just go for it.
my name is laura and i am 20. i am married with no children (yet) i want to share my story.
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Omigosh...it's Bettie Page!
We demand your secret to eternal youth, in which we hope a reply in forthcoming posts.
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The Ultimate Urban Myth
First we establish that there is an omnipresent being that has created the universe. We'll make this being a "He", this way women won't screw it up. Think I'm lying?! Look at the way women drive. End of argument.
Now, surely people are going to want "proof" and "evidence" of this being. No worries! We just say..."He's INVISIBLE"! Remember now, we are not trying to convince the WHOLE world of this...we just need a few hundred million idiots to pull this off. Believe me, this isn't as difficult as it sounds. Also, we need to have some sort of written credibility as to a history of such being. We can quote some ancient Mid-East sheep herders, politicians, and business people. You know, some books from such people that hold a common idea. Sprinkle in a few rantings of people who had hallucinations and drug induced experiences...and we can minipulate the translation ourselves! Pretty genius, wouldn't you say? Thanks.
We should also put in a "reward system" for those who believe us. Oh...let's say...um...I got it: There is no death, you can live forever in a place full of magic and leprachauns who are friends with fairy folk. Our method to promote this idea can be versatile...we can make a nice little paradise earth in the future (we'll just keep pushing the date back), or we can promote the idea that the Invisible Omnipresent Being has an Invisible Kingdom. Oh yes, and you can talk to the Omnipresent Being...but for some reason, he can't talk to you. But everything you do in your life, is indeed, being controlled by him. Hey...everything is 50/50 chance, and if you concentrate on the "positive" outcomes in any given situation...then we promote such. Again...do not worry about how to pull this off, like I said, we just need several hundred million idiots to believe us.
Now, we need to exploit the U.S. philosophy in commercial enterprise...advertise, advertise, advertise. I say we start a publishing company and circulate our magazines! But wait! Here's the kicker...we'll have sales people that work for us for FREE! Think of the profit margin! Should these "sales people" start to get disgruntled, we will just kindly remind them that they are giving the Omnipresent Being a heartache and not to piss him off. This will keep most of them in line.
Now, go forth and sell this idea in all the inhabited earth as a monopoly for us to achieve, once we do that, then the end of our business will come.
Yep....I'm sure damn glad I thought of this idea...and don't any of you dare steal it from me.
Edited by - D8TA on 8 January 2003 18:17:33
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Goodbye, Everyone!
by OrbitingTheSun ini have spoken with a number of you already about my journey this winter, but i thought i'd share the story with all of you before i leave this thursday.
this fall i was asked by one of the professors at my school to go with her on a mission to guatemala.
her proposal sounded very interesting, but i didn't think i would be able to go because of my family's financial situation (my widowed mother has been paying my tuition and my brother's tuition while we both attend private institutions).
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~^*Easter Egg*^~
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Staying Awake Or Keeping In A Frenzy?
by AlanF inwe ex-jws know very well how much the watchtower society put us under pressure to believe that "armageddon is just around the corner".
they've been doing it in one form or another ever since charles taze russell began publishing his nonsense.
in 1877 he advocated that true christians should believe that christ would "take them home" in 1878. when that didn't happen he moved the event up to 1881. after that he focused on 1914.. the society is still doing pretty much the same thing, building up expectations and then revising them, decade after decade.
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Boy, did some of you miss a little sub-message in the titles? Look again:
"Now More Than Ever, Stay Awake!" and "Keep on the Watch!"
See it? First one is obvious, second one needs modification.
1) Now More Than Ever, Stay "AWAKE!"
2) Keep on the "WATCH(TOWER)!"
Coincidence? I think not.
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Muhammed Ali ~vs~ Cassius Clay ????
by LDH indid you know cassius clay (better known as muhammed ali) was named after a white reformist and abolitionist?.
lisa.
food for thought class.
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I still say Cassius Clay could kick Muhammed Ali's butt.
No! Wait...!
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Staying Awake Or Keeping In A Frenzy?
by AlanF inwe ex-jws know very well how much the watchtower society put us under pressure to believe that "armageddon is just around the corner".
they've been doing it in one form or another ever since charles taze russell began publishing his nonsense.
in 1877 he advocated that true christians should believe that christ would "take them home" in 1878. when that didn't happen he moved the event up to 1881. after that he focused on 1914.. the society is still doing pretty much the same thing, building up expectations and then revising them, decade after decade.
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Valis,
You just killed my eternal adoration for Carmen Miranda...muito 'brigado!
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So, where DID the 1914 timeline go awry?
by Xander inokay, i know that historical evidence is that jerusalem fell in 586/7 instead of 607 - as the wtbts would have.
however, that is not compelling enough to show a hypothetical jw.
they (generally) must not only be show that the opposition is correct, but that the wtbts is wrong.
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A Rolf Furuli link about this "new chronology" opinion:
http://www.geocities.com/yhwhbible/oslo_chronology.htm
Nope...can't say it proves or disproves: 586/587 or 607. It's been called a "different" approach", in other words, an "opinion". Try again.
I like the end of this though:
A word of caution
Ancient history cannot be proven, because there are no living informants. Any attempt to make a chronological scheme of the kings of ancient nations is tentative. The Oslo chronology does not claim to represent the final word of the matter, but it represents a new approach to chronology. It does not generally challenge the interpretations and datings of astronomical tablets by experts such as Sachs, Hunger, Watson, and Steel, but it questions the origin and quality of the tablets, thus scrutinizing the connection between the dates and regnal year of real kings. Its advantage is that the cuneiform data are not seen through the glasses of the traditional chronology, but the evidence of each tablet is presented in its own right. It is also an advantage that published cuneiform sources are much more numerous and complete than was the case 50 years ago when Parker and Dubberstein did their work. The real importance of the Oslo chronology, therefore, is not that it has established the only true chronology, but that it has demonstrated that the accepted chronology, based on P&D is not the only true chronology.
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A Dirty D8TA Secret - A Confession!
by D8TA inthis is bad.
soooo bad.. .
when i was kid, growing up outside seattle, i had the responsibility of taking care of the family yard.
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This happened about 17 years ago. I really had no intent to do anything dishonest. I remember being scared and the thought of actually (as I should of done) doing the "right" thing. I remember when I chickened out, when I saw that ugly brown car in their driveway and the idea of "getting away with it" entered my mind. I remember, that after all was done, that I had not accomplished a grand master plan...but rather a quick thinking desperate action that turned out the way it did, I remember feeling lucky.
Come to think of it, whenever I enter the realm of probability, most of the time...it doesn't swing my way. This event was one of the very few times events had unfolded the way it did. I can't credit my imagination, because I acted on impulse really. In all, I thought I was going to be caught somehow. It's weird, how sometimes the most illogical and unsound plans work out the way they do.
I don't even think Mr. & Mrs. Olsen are alive anymore. Mrs. Olsen being around late 60's and Mr. Olsen in the early 70's when this happened.
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A Dirty D8TA Secret - A Confession!
by D8TA inthis is bad.
soooo bad.. .
when i was kid, growing up outside seattle, i had the responsibility of taking care of the family yard.
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This is bad. Soooo bad.
When I was kid, growing up outside Seattle, I had the responsibility of taking care of the family yard. I toiled for years tending to our lawn and garden. I have no complaints, because I really enjoyed the creative freedom I had when it came to landscaping. I did a whole assortment of neat projects; making footpaths, edging and manipulating the area of green grass, but most of all I had a garden.
Ah yes, the garden. I would wake up early on Saturday mornings and tend to whatever crop I had. It was fun...UNTILL! Muffy. Good ol Muffy, the rabid poodle who belonged to our next-door neighbor. Every spring and summer (when I tended to my garden) this dog would come over on to our property and bark a vicious storm, keeping about a good 5-foot distance from me. This went on for about 3 years. We issued several complaints to the dogs owner, but the problem persisted. Even went to the point where I just finally ignored the dog all together.
Then it happened.
I was working in my yard and digging a hole for a rose bush. As always, there was Muffy barking up her storm, and as usual, I ignored her. As I was nearing completion of the hole, I hit a rather large rock and was required to take it out by hand. So there I am kneeling down with my ass exposed and prying the rock lose and Muffy finally took a nice big bite just below my right butt cheek. It hurt, man, did it HURT! Now, the shovel I was using was to my immediate right hand side, without thought but on pure reaction...quick like lightning...I grabbed the shovel and did a half circle sweep and WHAP! Muffy goes sailing. No wimper, no whelp, no nothing, Muffy landed with a silent thud on the yard about 10 feet away. Muffy was gone.
Now I begin to panic, I just killed the dog. I do a quick sweep of the area and notice no one had been watching, nor any attention had come to the situation at hand. My mind was racing. I pick up the dog and make my way to the neighbors front door. I had it in mind to tell them the truth, apologize, and take whatever punishment my parents would dish out...until I saw my neighbors car in their driveway. No I didnt? Oh yes...I did. I place Muffy at the base of the back wheel on the passenger side and walked away...returning to the rose bush project.
It was about twenty minutes later when I heard my neighbors car start up, followed by a few moments pause, then the shrill scream of: OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!. At first, since I didnt have a view of the neighbors car, I thought that they had found Muffy lying in the driveway under the wheel. This was quickly dismissed when the screaming continued with, JEFF! I KILLED THE DOG! OH MY GOD! I KILLED THE DOG!
I then race up to the front of the house to see how it would turn out. Even my parents, sisters, and a few other neighbors had come out to see the commotion. There was my neighbor, Mrs. Olsen, holding Muffy in her arms weeping near her husband. She was going on about how she didn't see the dog in the driveway and that she had backed up over it. Then they went inside their house.
I never, to this day, mentioned this story to anyone. I felt terrible.Edited by - D8TA on 7 January 2003 16:40:16