Posts by D8TA

be it a member of the wtbts, a browsing elder, a vindictive ex-member, or a person with no ties at all.. problem is, there could be some posters who don't take to kind to people messing in their personal and family life.

not saying there are such posters here or anywhere else, just pointing to a possible scenario.

D8TA

D8TA, it doesn't phase a person who has no conscience.

Whether if "phases" any such person (the "rat") or not, I just gave some "food for thought". Like I said,
"a person who isn't as forgiving or understanding may blow a cork". Taking it to the extreme (in which I wouldn't condone or suggest anyone to do), well, dead rats don't cross finish lines do they? I'll clarify again, I don't believe there are any such people
on this board, but the possibility of such a confrontation between two parties with no "conscience" could get
rather ugly.

Just pointing out the "extreme" in such cause and affect scenarios.

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Why Being A Rat For The WTBS Can BE BAD

by D8TA in

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come to think of it, being a "rat" can be rather hazardous for the person doing so.

be it a member of the wtbts, a browsing elder, a vindictive ex-member, or a person with no ties at all.. problem is, there could be some posters who don't take to kind to people messing in their personal and family life.

not saying there are such posters here or anywhere else, just pointing to a possible scenario.

D8TA

Come to think of it, being a "rat" can be rather hazardous for the person doing so. Be it a member of the WTBTS, a browsing elder, a vindictive ex-member, or a person with no ties at all.

Problem is, there could be some posters who don't take to kind to people messing in their personal and family life. Not saying there are such posters here or anywhere else, just pointing to a possible scenario. Just giving some food for thought.

See, there's allways that possibility when, somehow, that information recieved by these "elders" can lead back to the person who gave it to them. Perhaps it could also be a foolish slip of tongue in some other fasion which leads to such an informant. Now, I know the informant may be in the position of thinking "I'm trying to help my brother/sister", but this really wouldn't matter to say somebody who really doesn't like it when people screw in his or her business. The person being informed on could be very protective in keeping communication with their JW family members. This poses the hazzard.

So, if you are a person who feels it's your obligation to inform your "elders" of people here....think twice before doing so. If you are an "elder" (CO.DO.ZO--go up the chain) and see people posting here that you believe is somebody you know....think twice. If you are a non-member or x-member who is playing a vindictive game...think more then 3 times.

There could come a day when a person who isn't as forgiving or understanding may blow a cork and will find out who informed on them. This could lead to a whole world of problems for the informant. Use your imagination.

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The State of the Union

by Marvin Shilmer in

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i am an american, and so is my president.

this is an iron no speech can hold.

it can only be experienced.

D8TA

Tony Robbins posts here????

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The State of the Union

by Marvin Shilmer in

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i am an american, and so is my president.

this is an iron no speech can hold.

it can only be experienced.

D8TA

Bush: I want the American People to Kno...

Audience: ( 45 seconds of applause )

Bush: And we shall continue to deal with Ira...

Audience: ( 45 seconds of applause )

Bush: We will defen....

Audience: ( 45 seconds of applause )

Bush: I will....

Audience ( 45 seconds of applause )

Bush:Uh...

Audience ( 45 seconds of applause )

Bush: ...

Audience ( 45 seconds of applause )

wash. rinse. repeat.

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is this acceptable punishment for kids of JWS?

by phillipau in

i am not a jw myself but i am wondering if this is the proper punishment for kids of jws ?.

my 2 neices are aged 12 &10 their step dad and mother are practising jw,s and the step dad thinks this is acepptable punishment for these girls.

he pulls down their knickers and hits these girls with a belt untill there are welts on their backsides.

D8TA

OldHippie said: hawgRyder, you are way out of line with your comments.
 The hell he aint!

In 15 years that I was a kid growing up as JW, I witnessed (no pun intended) SEVERAL if not at EVERY MEETING 
of kids getting the holy crap knocked out of them. I'm not talking regular spankings, I'm talking belts, rulers, paddles 
and wallopins. I can recall several times when my mother would drop me off at a JW house (this is when toddlers and kids 
would go and be baby sat, while parents went in service in the 70's) and would give the home owner permission to give 
physical discipline. Jesus, there was one house where the lady would beat you with a switch! Then another where they would 
beat you with a paddle! Not to mention the scores of times my friends would show their welts and bruises from JW parents 
using excessive force in discipline.

So go sell crazy-stupid some place else you Old Hippie.

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Are all women psychos?

by roybatty in

im not sure if i was married to a psycho or not and am wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience with their ex.

weve been divorced for 2-1/2 years and have had our ups and downs.

because shes a diehard jw and doesnt have grounds to get re-married i get an ear full from her blah...blah.. anyway, one minute shes like "its terrible that i have to wait for you to get married before i can" and then this past weekend she calls me to talk.

D8TA

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Ladies, are you submissive enough?

by Celia in

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i just received a magazine in the mail titled : answer magazine.

it must come from some born again christians and i have an idea who had it forwarded to me.... .

one article is : what's so scary about submission ?

D8TA

This months AWAKE! Magazine:

Why True Christian Women Can't Fix Cars

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Crimeny Sake People!

by D8TA in

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prove me wrong.. humans resort to the lowest common denominator when it comes to conflict.

a) people will finally resort (even after starting with logical and reasonable debates) to verbal confrontation with insults, name calling, and/or various underhanded attacks.. and/or.

b) people will finally resort (even after starting with logical and reasonalbe debates) to physical confrontation (anything from minor as a slap to an all out apocolyptic war).. now i will grant an exception here: there are few, and i mean a very few people in history and present time in which keep a civil disposition when it comes to conflict.

D8TA

Prove me wrong.

Humans resort to the lowest common denominator when it comes to conflict. What I'm saying here is:

A) People will finally resort (even after starting with logical and reasonable debates) to verbal confrontation with insults, name calling, and/or various underhanded attacks.

and/or

B) People will finally resort (even after starting with logical and reasonalbe debates) to physical confrontation (anything from minor as a slap to an all out apocolyptic war).

Now I will grant an exception here: There are FEW, and I mean a VERY FEW people in history and present time in which keep a civil disposition when it comes to conflict. But for humanity, the greater majority, will result in to the lowest common denominator...if you get my meaning and definition of such.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's perception. What YOU (and I) believe in, stand for, and direct with our internal moral compass often seeks a "side" to an issue. There can be two or more sides to an issue, true? Well...the little thing called "emotion" in we humans tends to get in the way of things. This isn't a "bad" or "wrong" thing, to say the least.

Take the example of William Wallace...more so the Hollywood version of such. How many were affected by such a presentation. Here we have the hero batteling England's oppressive rule. He used techniques, violent ones, in which you have been led to believe to be "noble" or "justified". You say to yourself, "hey, sure, why not? Bill Wallace kicked ass for 'noble' and 'just' reasons. I relate to that."

Well...eh, now rename William Wallace as Abdul Habib (or some other name). His religion and cultural traditions (which have been around for 1000's of years) are now being 'opressed' by Western civilization point of view, policy, and military actions. He goes out and fights against those contrary to his belief.

Am I saying this is justified? No, not at all. Just pointing out that perhaps, sometimes, you need to detach yourself from situations to aid yourself to a "better" understanding as to events in history, and present dilemas.

History is repleat with examples of Opressors vs. Opressed. Conflicting points of view. Each trying to justify the "betterment" of their own society. Techniques are presented, lines are drawn, and battles prevail on many spectrums.

Detach yourself from patriotism and nationalism, and you begin to see that it's nothing more then a conflict of power and control. One society vs. another society for a fight in survival. One tribe vs. another tribe. Instead of hunting grounds, we have conflict over social and economic frontiers now days.

Conflicts are not as "black & white" as we "want" or "wish" them to be. There are many "gray" areas in which each side can seek refuge in, so they may feel "justified" for being combative.

So before you go labeling people "evil", trying stepping back for a moment. Detach loyalties and idealisms of "nobility" and "integrity"...and look at what is going on. You will see that actions done by both opposing parties are pretty much equal on the playing field.

Now, I'm going to serve this warning one time for I've said my piece:

If we continue upon this course of action in adversde Social Politics, the only thing that will come of it will be everyone making an ass of themselves. If two parties are in conflict, keep it to a minimum. Let the parties dispute the problem. If they can not contact each other, it would be wiser to just drop it. Sacraficing your pride isn't going to kill anyone, keeping it will escalate the problem.

This whole JWO vs. JWD vs. EX-JWD is elementary school yard bullshit. There is one thing I come clean on is that I've never engaged in any of this Social Political Warfare. I've remained Switzerland in all this. So take it from a neautral point of view. I've hit the Trolls with a pretty big stick and apologists as well...but when it comes to Board Wars, you can pretty much say I've stayed out of all of it.

You decide to start spamming each other's boards with these Social squabbles, you are only making an ass of yourself. You are engaging equal actions with no justification. You want to stick up for a "friend" then send them an e-mail with your support. Keep it behind the lines. You do so in public, it will only escalate the confrontation and there will be more casualties.

Now, for my perception:

There are times in our history, that there are Tyrants that truly Opress people. We are the very few that have survived and escaped the clutches of the WTBTS. In it's 120 year history, we here on THESE BOARDS, are the first generation to really unite and kick them in the nuts.

But hey, you want to throw that all away because of Social Political confrontation...be my guest. You want to continue this childish bullshit so your pride isn't hurt and let WTBTS prove that their position correct on "apostates" and/or "people who leave" correct...be my guest. You want to prove who has an ego or who is a liar for the sake of some self percieved "nobility"...be my guest.

But mark my words, you continue with this, and you'll end up destroying yourselves....and becoming that in which you escaped.