1st john 4:18 .
18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.
indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.
Agreed, and while I was sitting in the meeting the other day looking at my bible while the CO read some scripture from the bible, I wondered, is there ANY scripture in the first 5 books, really the foundation, that portrays god in any sort of loving way? An interesting challenge, I would like to make that another post. See if anyone can think of one.
Before david was writing poetry about YHWH. The moses bits, when is God shown to be loving, forgiving, patient, kind, just, merciful...?
1st john 4:18 .
18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.
indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.
cappytan, "It's not a morbid fear, it's a fear of displeasing him!" that is funny. Just reading that statement now makes me laugh. Put it in the context of an abusive mate, or parent, or animal owner. Or citizen under a harsh dictatorship. That statement that we have all heard in talks time and again is the ultimate JW-oxymoron.
I am not afraid of my Spouse beating the hell out of me, I am just afraid of displeasing him/her.
ok guys, this is long, so i am sorry, but i think it is important to publish.
this is a glimpse into a 4 page letter (love that song) from my uber elder uncle.
as some of you may know i got tired of being in an email chain and finally lost it and lashed out.
it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.
just curious, a personal poll if you will.
what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?
ok guys, this is long, so i am sorry, but i think it is important to publish.
this is a glimpse into a 4 page letter (love that song) from my uber elder uncle.
as some of you may know i got tired of being in an email chain and finally lost it and lashed out.
Its true fernando, Witnesses never understand that the burden of proof falls on the person who makes a claim, not on who doesn't accept it. ie; 607 bce
cults tend to have a total explanation for everything- everything that ever happened, everything that is happening now, and everything that ever will happen.
that certainly fits watchtower.
they have a black-and-white perception of everything, they are never wrong, there are no gray areas.
1st john 4:18 .
18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.
indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.
1st John 4:18
18 There is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us. Indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+
Compare that with everything that keeps the organization together, I know THEY tell the followers its love, and because its a cult they believe that, but when you wake up you know its fear.
Well this scripture seems to make me believe fear is not good according to this particular part of the bible. If you have an abusive mate, and they say love me or I'll kill you, and you do, does that mean you really love them? Or are you saying it because you don't want to suffer? Even (this part of) the bible shows the witness fear machine is WRONG.
By the way I heard this scripture two nights ago from the CO's talk. Hypocrisy.
the penalty of this charge??
yes, disfellowshipping.. bad association?
excessive time at work?
what is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?
The complete mental barricade to obvious MAJOR flaws in the organization. I feel i forced the barricade for years until I just couldn't anymore and was honest with myself. JW's live in a constant lie:
seriously, how can it be ok for someone to say of themselves that they are "by far the meekest and most humble person" on the earth?.
numbers 12:3 'now the man moses was by far the meekest of all the men on the face of the earth'.
yes, moses was so humble that he told everyone about it!!?!.
