I think a better question would read "did the Mesopotamian myth of a global flood originate with these civilizations lost to the Persian gulf". Often these things reveal the origins. Not proof a myth was factual.
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Was this the garden of Eden/Noah's flood?
by little_Socrates inhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208151609.htm.
jeffrey rose, an archaeologist and researcher with the university of birmingham in the u.k., says that the area in and around this "persian gulf oasis" may have been host to humans for over 100,000 years before it was swallowed up by the indian ocean around 8,000 years ago.
rose's hypothesis introduces a "new and substantial cast of characters" to the human history of the near east, and suggests that humans may have established permanent settlements in the region thousands of years before current migration models suppose.. .
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More Inspiring Young Awakenings
by freemindfade ini just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
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It's only my opinion. But I think we will see a new generation of exjw "apostate".
I think maybe the older ones. Were most fearless and they found informaton and acted in times when information wasn't as readily available.
Then there are those in their 30's like me and some other I know. We came into the information age. And weren't born in. I feel we are awake and pissed. Often stuck. Embedded by spouse and family and already our youth sacrafice to this shit.
Then this young group. Very decisive about living honestly. Raised in the info age. Maybe the least vitriol of the three demographics. Still young different atmosphere different experience. I hope all the you people snap out of it and wake up before they get embedded in decades of family and friends.
None of this is fact just gut feelings of mine. We all share similarities no matter how old or young. But we all also have different generational aspects on this cult.
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More Inspiring Young Awakenings
by freemindfade ini just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
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friendliness? well they are Canadian lol
Sorry can't skip an opportunity to tease Canadians, all in good fun. I do love canadians but also love to tease them.
They seem pretty sharp, I doubt they will become ministers of some other nonsense. I think there are a few rest stops on the way out, one is still believing in judeo christian faith (I never made that one) and the other is a form of agnosticism that keeps looking for higher power. Now some get stranded at those rest stops, I have a feeling now that they are free to think, and meeting lots of people, they wont get closed minded again. I hope
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Kudos: for those of you who awakened with you significant others. You are so LUCKY!!!
by goingthruthemotions inlike the title says....those of you who made it out with you husbands or wives.
you people are so lucky!!!.
lucky because your wife or husband isn't brain dead and can think and reason for themselves.
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freemindfade
Same situation here. I think it falls into this same thing "if there was something horribly wrong with this religion would you want to know? and if you were told could you even tell"? as of right now I think my wife would not want to know. no matter what. So I feel for you. Read this, and also watch the young couple in the videos I posted in another recent thread. Although I do feel they are lucky, it gives me some happiness to see the ones that weren't alone.
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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific
by LAWHFol ini have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
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freemindfade
Correction. They start as atheist vs theist. The theist is quickly devoured and the atheists and agnostics turn on one another in a philosophical debate about debating and words that by their very nature a varied and founded in a theological world.
The problem is the word GOD. As soon as it is used, a huge leap is made, this is undeniable. Atheist say they don't know and don't believe because historically the role filled by "God" known or unknown, has been explained away through knowledge, and this is likely to continue on. The that word in of itself if inflammatory and should have no place. If you don't say god no one has to say atheist.
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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific
by LAWHFol ini have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
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freemindfade
_Morpheus I went to the store and bam. Look what happened. Viv and cofty came full in to save us lol
What page are we up to now? I saw something about unicorns. What did I miss lol
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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific
by LAWHFol ini have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific
by LAWHFol ini have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
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freemindfade
Atheism is not unscientific nor is it scientific. It is lack of belief
now that I like. Why couldn't you have said that the fist comment after the op!! Lol. We could have avoided all this.
The OP is crap for insinuating
Atheism = Science!
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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific
by LAWHFol ini have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
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freemindfade
let me derail this thing a little more since nobody is answering Cofty,
Atheism is not tantamount to science, brilliant observation in the OP, as we have seen, its just a label used to define. with that out of the way...
which have had a greater impact on the progress of science? Atheist? or Theists? Which have done more to inhibit science?
Now some of the early scientists/thinkers who suggested things like the sun being at the center, not the earth, and the universe being much grander, and who were also persecuted by the church as heretics, were theists. But overall...
which has had a greater impact on the progress of science? Atheist/atheism? or Theists/theism? Which has done more to inhibit science?
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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific
by LAWHFol ini have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
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freemindfade
If no one had every made up a myth or a YHWH or whatever we would all be agnostic, that is their could be things beyond us unknown.
This fact has made "agnostic" mean more than one thing, would you not agree? Quite literally maybe it has one single definition, but it means different things to different people. In the purist meaning we all have to be. But outside of that, many "agnostics" believe there is something out there, its just undefined, they still slide into a belief they want to hold onto that is unfounded, and simply unknown.
Its a never ending circle jerk, why? because its worth debating? nope, because religion is such crazy notion it turns it into a hot mess to even discuss