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freemindfade
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More Inspiring Young Awakenings
by freemindfade ini just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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freemindfade
Island man thank you, and I agree the evidence seems to point to the fact there was a moon landing, and I live my life believing such. There is a reoccurring idea that I hear that bothers me that is baseless and I am not picking on any one person, just in general. Vivi excluded. She deals in facts, and frighteningly well I might add.
I am not advocating believing conspiracy theories, but not being to harsh on the act of entertaining them if only to disprove.
It would actually have been easier to land men on the moon than to successfully fake landing them on the moon. Faking the moon landing with so many people involved and keeping it quiet would be a much more daunting feat than actually landing people on the moon.
This idea to me is absurd, especially to call it common sense. Its pretty broad and it assumes one major thing, everyone involved in such a "cover up" "conspiracy" etc, would have to know it was such. I think it is great to consider all the real evidence, to me the practice of deception is often much much less complex than we think. Anyone who has ever been privy to or involved in some large scale deception knows this and some other "conspiracy ideas" are not as far fetched as we make them out to be. The implications are much bigger than the execution. Ask any con artist. Deceiving people, even vast numbers is not not an out for entertaining a conspiracy.
I already mentioned the Manhattan Project. That was a secret project, dare we say a conspiracy of sorts for national security. Anyone interested I suggest do a little research on the staggering amount of people involved in he first atom bomb. Of course that conspiracy ended when they dropped the bomb, what was once a giant secret was out, and the intention was always to let that secret out.
Another example, something we all share, being a Jehovah's Witness. Lets not hang ourselves up on thinking that once got us in trouble. "How could 8 million good hearted people be in a CULT!" "Thats absurd." "how could so many people be involved in something untruthful". Well there you have it, most of here were. We weren't conspiring, but we lived part of a lie. Jehovah's Witnesses fall in my opinion, not into conspiracy but conspiracy theory definition.
con·spir·a·cy the·o·rynoun- a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
Jehovahs Witnesses undue influence is conspiracy theory to about 8 millions people, and completely ridiculous in their mind. To those in Conspiracy theory, to those out, TTATT.
Lets take one more that some of us may share in some way or another. The american cosa nostra. Or mafia. until 1960 the "Mafia" was a conspiracy theory. When Joe Velachi spilled the beans in the biggest rat move of all time, that all came to a stop. In the 50's you would have been mocking people for believing a high powered criminal organization was involved with the CIA, Big business, and government officials. Now its not a conspiracy theory, its history.
So what I am getting at is the attack on the size of the lie is a foolish debate. I am sure if i did a little more digging I could find more large scale deception examples.
You see I think it is healthy to entertain the idea the status quo is not what it seems. That doesn't mean that moon landings and 9/11 theories are right, but they help you see if you are biased because of the size of the lie, or group.
Jon Stewart said in closing of his show this week, "bullshit is everywhere" and I could not agree more, I have had many experiences I can't get into on here that have shown me that day to day life is built largely on "not what you think it is". I am not talking about illuminati, loch ness monster stuff, but much more mundane BS. They are not paranormal, they do not involved some mysterious secret society as much as just people that will do whatever it takes to get money, power, whatever, or just keep the system working. Most people if they knew half the crap in their lives that is built on lies they wouldn't be able to sleep at night, but people also feel the same way about god. For me its not that big of deal, because as Jon Stewart was also saying, much of bullshit is for good, and necessary to hold society together. ie; "what a cute baby... maybe someday it will grow into that head".
So not all bull shit is bad, or the illuminati making you buy JayZ albums.
But again the evidence always has to rule, just like in court, sometimes the evidence is also a guilty parties best friend if 1. it doesn't exist (in the court) or 2. its been faked. Anyone here ever forged a document? You made evidence.
Conspiracy theories are fun, they are too attractive too, like doomsday cults, its good to check them out, but we should not criticize those that do, just make sure they don't get off the train and stay too long on one that is not confirmed such as a moon landing hoax. We can challenge them with facts to help them move past it, but not call them brain dead for questioning the system/institution/status quo and so forth.
Don't get stuck in the rut of believing too much without evidence, but don't stop questioning everything,
Now if you guys will excuse me...
P.S. Edit, Viv speaking of footage did you find my lost color footage from the moon? ;)
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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freemindfade
Sorry guys I fell behind, I was doing... stuff
ok let me catch up...
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"Brother Lett is like a big cuddly teddy bear!"
by purrpurr ini had this said to me the other day by a jw who is fully brain washed.
it gave me shivers to think is that really how the r&f perceive the gb?
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Watchtower sued for Racketeering in California
by under the radar ina little birdie informed me that a lawsuit against the watchtower bible & tract society, its legal department, and several individuals (perhaps lawyers in the legal department) has been filed in the superior court of the state of california, county of los angeles for, wait for it.... racketeering!.
that's right, folks, you heard it here first.
i have no other information, other than the case was stamped "aug 07 2015" and the docket number appears to be bc590675.
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Jw's. Meet RICO, RICO this is the jws -
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It’s Official: UFO-Worshiping Raëlians Are No Longer Zionists
by freemindfade incaught this in a news feed and absolutely had to read it, first of all i don't know where to start with how awesome this is.
ok lets start with the name.
heeb... thats the news source... i wont say any more on that.... the saddest part of this is what i read of this wacky sci-fi religion, as bat shit crazy as it is, it still makes more sense than jehovahs witnesses.. without further waiting.... http://heebmagazine.com/its-official-ufo-worshiping-raelians-are-no-longer-zionists/55304.
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Lol. This concludes conspiracy theory week -
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It’s Official: UFO-Worshiping Raëlians Are No Longer Zionists
by freemindfade incaught this in a news feed and absolutely had to read it, first of all i don't know where to start with how awesome this is.
ok lets start with the name.
heeb... thats the news source... i wont say any more on that.... the saddest part of this is what i read of this wacky sci-fi religion, as bat shit crazy as it is, it still makes more sense than jehovahs witnesses.. without further waiting.... http://heebmagazine.com/its-official-ufo-worshiping-raelians-are-no-longer-zionists/55304.
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freemindfade
Damn. ...
Didn't think about that.
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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freemindfade
No need to apologize for rudeness to me either. I don't take it thay way. I expect you to keep me sharp Chica. You can bust my b@lls all you like. I won't get butt hurt.
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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freemindfade
Ok wait, let me start at the bottom here and work my way up, your link did provide what I asked for color footage. So I said the wrong thing let me rephrase for my error. Color footage of the moon landing and moonwalk. Unless I skipped over it somehow that was not in the footage, which sorta seems even more suspect since they have color footage of everything BUT the moon walk. No?
And also the scorched launchpad was freaking awesome! I could sit and watch that for a while and Im not even a pyro. bad ass.
yes I am too lazy to care about the shadows you are correct lol.
Not sure how but we need someone with more interest than me to check the authenticity of this photo
WARNING IRRATIONAL STATEMENT 3....2.....1.....And the "C"in my mind is unexplained, there are pics where it is there and pics where it isn't my irrational gut feeling tells me NASA has a propensity for altering pics... i have no solid basis for this. :)
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It’s Official: UFO-Worshiping Raëlians Are No Longer Zionists
by freemindfade incaught this in a news feed and absolutely had to read it, first of all i don't know where to start with how awesome this is.
ok lets start with the name.
heeb... thats the news source... i wont say any more on that.... the saddest part of this is what i read of this wacky sci-fi religion, as bat shit crazy as it is, it still makes more sense than jehovahs witnesses.. without further waiting.... http://heebmagazine.com/its-official-ufo-worshiping-raelians-are-no-longer-zionists/55304.
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freemindfade
caught this in a news feed and absolutely had to read it, first of all I don't know where to start with how awesome this is. Ok lets start with the name
heeb... thats the news source... I wont say any more on that...
The saddest part of this is what I read of this wacky sci-fi religion, as bat shit crazy as it is, it still makes more sense than Jehovahs Witnesses.
without further waiting...
http://heebmagazine.com/its-official-ufo-worshiping-raelians-are-no-longer-zionists/55304
Here’s one that’s sure to disappoint the thin venn segment of people who love the state of Israel, and also believe that all life on Earth is the product of extraterrestrial scientific meddling. The Raëlian movement has officially (officially!) renounced Zionism, and declared themselves the “true Jews,” urging the rest of us to convert to Raëlismbefore it’s too late.
What’s Raëlism? So glad you asked.
The Raëlian movement believes that, in 1973, their founder Claude Vorilhon (now known as Raël, of course) received a message from an extraterrestrial named “Yahweh,” explaining that the ancient angles, cherubs, and divine beings throughout human mythology are actually alien scientists (“Elohim”), responsible for seeding life on this planet. What’s more, once our species reaches a certain developmental stage, the Elohim will make themselves known world-wide, and we’ll enter into an age of extraterrestrial enlightenment.
All that having been said, Raëlians are also strong proponents of LGBT rights and volunteerism. They’re staunchly anti-war, and are deeply interested in scientific research into genetics, as cloning plays a large role in their belief system. So, hey, you take the good with the kookly, I guess.
In a release put out today, first noticed by The Forward‘s Josh Nathan Kazis, the Raëlian movement explains their rejection of Zionism, writing:
Rael, the IRM’s [International Raëlian Movement] spiritual leader, has released an official Message he received on August 6 from Yahweh, leader of the Elohim, the extraterrestrial scientists who created life on Earth.
The essence of Yahweh’s message is that protection previously extended by the Elohim to the Jewish people has ceased, according to the IRM statement.
As relayed by Rael, Yahweh’s words to the Jews were, in part:
“You have betrayed all the exemplary values of Judaism by stealing land and houses that don’t belong to you, and especially by not respecting my most important commandment: ‘Thou shall not kill.’ And you have accumulated nuclear weapons that could kill millions of people in one go and spark off a world war capable of destroying all of our creation.”
Rael also relayed Yahweh’s request for Jews to leave Palestine:
“Consequently, the protection previously granted by us [the Elohim] to Israel is totally withdrawn as of today, and we ask that all real Jews leave the land of Palestine as quickly as possible.”
Oh dear.
The press release goes on to explain that Yawheh has also designated the Raëlians as the new, true Jews, and that the 3rd Temple will be built as an intergalactic embassy to welcome the eventual return our our extraterrestrial creators. The full Raëlian statement can be found here.
This isn’t the first time the IRM has tangled with the state of Israel. The Geneva-based group, which frequently uses a star of David entwined with a swastika (citing it’s peaceful origins in India, and rejecting any Nazi connection) as a logo, has had land requests – presumably earmarked for the aforementioned 3rd Temple/Alien landing pad – rejected by Israel in the past.
While it’s unclear how Israel will respond to this latest provocation, it seems safe to assume that Prime Minister Netanyahu has already cleared large swaths of his schedule to address the growing extraterrestrial diplomatic crisis.
In the meantime, I suppose all we can do is… keep. watching. the. skis.
