Posts by freemindfade

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

What is your personal opinion, do you agree with that stance?
What does that say to you about NASSA?

I don't think it really means anything, just that when someone (or group) really wants things, they will make concessions. When they CIA needed the help of Cosa Nostra during WW2, they had no problem asking them. I don't really expect governments, businesses, or alphabet agencies to approach things from what we consider "ethical". they have a job to do, and they do it. Its a whore business, its just what it is, I personally lose no sleep over these things

There is an old saying, I believe it is arabic in nature, "my enemies enemy is my friend" something along those lines.

No, because no one has presented any evidence for that.

You're right I just made all that up, the nerve...

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

I guess not, just making sure that wasn't implied at yours truly

Would you not agree that while the space race was not started, and not deliberately done as a distraction from anything, that as it progressed its power was hijacked (not even in a negative way) by those seeking to use it for personal reason?

Sensationalizing the evolving medium of TV? political back patting? and cold war ass whooping? No conspiracy, but just as the media and politicians can latch strongly onto things even today that they may want to "ride the wave" of so to speak. This is my point

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Is Jackson embarrassed to be a JW?

by Doubting Bro in

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i listened to the majority of jackson's part one testimony and it seems apparent to me that he either:1) is embarrassed to be a jw or 2) doesn't really believe.

i've heard countless times from the platform and in print that we should be proud to be jws and take every opportunity to defend our beliefs.

yet, it seems jackson didn't even want to admit that he believed he was being directly used by jehovah to lead the congregation as his spokesman.

freemindfade

Things change when you are in front of a commission and not on someones doorstep.

He's forced to neuter himself and the other GB on a public stage. Unfortunately not enough witnesses will hear this, or if they do CD will cause them to say he was right and said everything perfect while continuing to follow the same rules spoken and unspoken.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

The implication made many pages ago via the "I'm just asking questions" fallacy was that Apollo was implemented to distract from Vietnam and that there was money flowing into NASA to keep it going to that end.

Did I say that Pumpkin?

Maybe I have amnesia.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

A Man on the Moon: The Voyages of the Apollo Astronauts is a book by Andrew Chaikin.

The whole Apollo program/space race provided relief.

Jim Lovell said this in the Apollo 8 mission:

"To see the earth as it truly is, small blue and beautiful in that eternal silence where it floats, is to see ourselves as riders on the earth together, brothers on that bright loveliness in the eternal cold—brothers who know now they are truly brothers."

Andrew said this in his book.

This transcendent idea stood in stark contrast to the previous events of 1968. the nation was becoming increasingly divided over such issues as the escalation of the Vietnam War, racial tensions, and the troubles of the inner cities.in a year that saw more than its share of horrors, including the assassinations of martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert Kennedy, Apollo 8 provided an uplifting end. one of the countless telegrams received by the astronauts after their return said, “You saved 1968.”

With the moon landing of Apollo 11 people got a break, and a distraction, still even after 11 things started to slide back and people became divided over Vietnam and also started seeing the NASA program and military use of technology as connected. But in his book he admits:

"...apollo’s successes had briefly raised the national mood..."

The moon landing didn't end the war and problems of america, but the race to the moon gave a distraction.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

That is a correct fact Mrs Viviane

My mistake, I was referring to a broad array of Merican things it distracted from, Vietnam lumped in, but not singled out. Your comment I took as the broad picture, "Merica, F%#k yea!", and not specifically Vietnam. I hope once again you forgive my infinite ignorance, let do some more googling I never thought I'd have to do.

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Flying the Plane By Committee

by freemindfade in

"in god's view, men and women are equal.

but even people who fly airplanes realize you can't fly an airplanes by committee there has to be a pilot and a co-pilot.

a woman is a co-worker, a complement, the bible refers to her as."-gj.

freemindfade

I vote Lett for pilot and TM3 for copilot!

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

After World War II drew to a close in the mid-20th century, a new conflict began. Known as the Cold War, this battle pitted the world’s two great powers–the democratic, capitalist United States and the communist Soviet Union–against each other. Beginning in the late 1950s, space would become another dramatic arena for this competition, as each side sought to prove the superiority of its technology, its military firepower and–by extension–its political-economic system....
By landing on the moon, the United States effectively “won” the space race that had begun with Sputnik’s launch in 1957. For their part, the Soviets made four failed attempts to launch a lunar landing craft between 1969 and 1972, including a spectacular launch-pad explosion in July 1969. From beginning to end, the American public’s attention was captivated by the space race, and the various developments by the Soviet and U.S. space programs were heavily covered in the national media. This frenzy of interest was further encouraged by the new medium of television. Astronauts came to be seen as the ultimate American heroes, and earth-bound men and women seemed to enjoy living vicariously through them. Soviets, in turn, were pictured as the ultimate villains, with their massive, relentless efforts to surpass America and prove the power of the communist system.
With the conclusion of the space race, U.S. government interest in lunar missions waned after the early 1970s. In 1975, the joint Apollo-Soyuz mission sent three U.S. astronauts into space aboard an Apollo spacecraft that docked in orbit with a Soviet-made Soyuz vehicle. When the commanders of the two crafts officially greeted each other, their “handshake in space” served to symbolize the gradual improvement of U.S.-Soviet relations in the late Cold War-era.
http://www.history.com/topics/space-race

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