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I have wondered if their money begging and these recent shenanigans are a legal perception move they are having money trouble for that very reason.
absolutely nothing.... has anyone dared ask what they need this place for?
think about a few things.
in bethels hay day, there was a shit ton of literature being printed, they even need a giant factory with elevators a truck could fit in.
I have wondered if their money begging and these recent shenanigans are a legal perception move they are having money trouble for that very reason.
absolutely nothing.... has anyone dared ask what they need this place for?
think about a few things.
in bethels hay day, there was a shit ton of literature being printed, they even need a giant factory with elevators a truck could fit in.
Abso-fecking-lutely
patterson was beautiful, and if its suppose to be a place for education etc, that's what Patterson was! It would have been way easier to put this where the farm was or something. it seems unnecessary.
Warwick may be the failed ambition that kills them. The way Las Vegas killed bugsey seigel
any takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
I am with all of you. I feel in my gut I can't yet, but I feel that something is going to happen in the future with watchtower, much worse and exposing than the ARC that is going to make it clearer for many. So lets not abandon the idea, we have time.
Watchtower like to predict dates and its ok for them to be wrong, so lets predict our mass DA 9/16
absolutely nothing.... has anyone dared ask what they need this place for?
think about a few things.
in bethels hay day, there was a shit ton of literature being printed, they even need a giant factory with elevators a truck could fit in.
absolutely nothing...
Has anyone dared ask what they need this place for? Think about a few things.
In bethels hay day, there was a shit ton of literature being printed, they even need a giant factory with elevators a truck could fit in. Things have changed,
It would seem to me, the physical need for 1. bethelites, and 2. facilities to maintain them, is gone. Digital media is taking over. So why in the f-ck do they need the Warwick (watchtower vatican) for? To spend so much volunteer work, so much money, so much headache, so much MONEY. for what? A GB playground? Having lived around the big three, especially brooklyn, i can tell you what the hell do you need all that for now? Things are not the same. Who is going to occupy this giant compound? Is it going to be like many say just a mecca where JW's from bumblescum america travel to to worship the GB? To be shown "look how clean we keep this place! so... Jehovah."Yay!
What is it for? Bethel used to be a factory, it required a lot of hands, now, it needs a tv studio and offices for lawyers. So many I know have gone to work on the project and they are so inspired, FOOLS! do you even know what its purpose is?? and is all that needed for whatever that purpose is??
Lurkers, you believe in Jesus, he had nowhere to lay his head, the real starts of the new testament were traveling around living on nothing, they didn't have a compound.
Warwick... what is good for?
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
the opposite of ego centric, you see "God" has a history, and its based in ancient tribal ego maniacs. The god idea of us as creation is arrogance. No, I see the cosmos as an indifferent place. Take earth for example. There have been about what... 5 mass extinctions starting with the first about 400+ millions years ago.
There is no "Plan" centered around us humans. yea we are cool, but to the universe we are just another rock for target practice. The importance of 'God' is inside every insecure human who doesn't want to feel alone and helpless.
It doesn't matter what circles you guys run in, god is founded in myth, fear, ignorance, superstition. Not enlightenment, in fact seems safe to say the mere idea of God retards progress and enlightenment. If you can't see that from human history, your bias is clear. The thing about the atheists is if there was a sound reason for believing god they would say ok, there is a god. But you can show theists there is no sound reason to accept "God" and they refuse to acknowledge. If atheists maintained their godless status in the light of proof of god, yes they would be biased. But such a thing does not exist except in your vivid imagination.
any takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
any takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
Let throw out a hypothetical date OneEyedJoe.
It never hurts to take a walk down that path in your mind.
next service year... september 2016, right before reporting time
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
Actually my orange marmalade is far more useful.
agree
any takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
Any takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug? lol