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  1914 'Big A' WT Retraction/Apology?!

  by lurkernomore in

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  so i just met with an old 'friend' who wanted a 'chat' after no contact for the best part of 4 years.

  she obviously heard about the wonderful news of my abrupt fade :d. i guess i wanted to prove to myself that any future meet ups/chats with jw's would be pointless.

  needless to say i proved myself right.

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  freemindfade

  They fill in the blanks with made up stuff that keeps them believing.
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  1914 'Big A' WT Retraction/Apology?!

  by lurkernomore in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i just met with an old 'friend' who wanted a 'chat' after no contact for the best part of 4 years.

  she obviously heard about the wonderful news of my abrupt fade :d. i guess i wanted to prove to myself that any future meet ups/chats with jw's would be pointless.

  needless to say i proved myself right.

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  freemindfade

  Does anyone know of anything published by the WT that comes even close to this, as I sure as hell can't think of any written material that had a retraction or apology???!

  HELL NO! They blamed the rank and file for the 1975 debacle, not sure if its in print or not, it might be. But they accused over zealous members for creating that buz. But they never have and never will apologize for anything! They are (in their own world) never wrong! Even when they are, its not wrong, its just... "refined".
  
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  Nope, we are done thinking like them, that is the beauty. It doesn't matter what you do they twist it into that thinking, more come in, Armageddon is coming, more are leaving, Armageddon is coming!
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  SEARIL

  Try to look at the positive side pronomono, even if they never change, the people inside are! The more sound reasons and people's examples that are out there of waking up, the better the chances are thinking ones will leave. This can work on many levels, which I hoped to capture with preamble and mission, that this is to draw attention to the human rights violation, and the allow US to express ourselves. For those of us dying to DA, it could give us some relief, just writing and sending the letter, even if its only symbolic for now, for others it could be a test run, and for some it may be the moment they get the courage to do it! It has potential
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  Pronomono I agree, 12/10 can become a date that means something to exjws.
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  Brokeback: Interesting thought, but I think we need it to stay true to an individual nature, the more variety the better. personal touch, they should be indistinguishable from other 'snail' mail communications.

  TheWonderofYou: Lets do it.

  December 10th. Human rights day. This will carry the most media potential as well I believe.

  Final

  December 10th 2015
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  Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
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  deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.

  the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.

  " she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.

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  We NEVER keep a database of the deaf...

  
  
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  Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.

  the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.

  " she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.

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  freemindfade

  Jehovah Witness spokesman Rod Spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.

  MORE LIES!!!

  wow. I hate this religion. They have no problem out right lying. I know they do for a fact, maybe not "official deaf database" but I know many who were involved in specific congregations and territories for the deaf. wow. How do you have a 'deaf territory' without a list/database/something keeping track of where they are.

  When they find the data base, witnesses will say oh that? That's not a database, thats not what we call it, its blah blah blah. See we didn't lie.

  f-ck your lying cult.
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  Another thought for today, in the way we are doing this, if we can show how many are anonymously expressing their desire to leave, if that number is much higher than those that actually DA, that should send a powerful message out that this religion is not playing nice...
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  I feel December 10th is the best day, i think we need to settle on a date and move along with the next pieces.

  The human rights issue I think is at the root of what makes this organization 'evil'. Yes there are many things they do wrong, and are wrong about etc. But the crux of it is the fact it is a captive religion. Their policies of shunning/disfellowshipping/apostasy etc I feel violate Article 12 and 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

  I will also write this into the mission, that this action we take is to bring attention that an american based organization systematically violates human rights, while being protected under the very Declaration they disregard. The mass DA needs to reach the HQ, the local level and the media to bring this cause to a head. Its not a doctrine issue, or a difference of opinion that has brought us to this point, it is the captive and abusive nature of this group that hides behind standards it itself cannot keep.

  Cappy... what date should we set for the site to be complete? And what else do we need to get it going?