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  Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church

  by OrphanCrow in

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  deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.

  the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.

  " she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.

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  freemindfade

  @jwfacts

  I know for a fact deaf are targeted, and there must be forms, letters and other things to back this up. Please contact them and I will help anyway I can
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  freemindfade

  Even fading or walking away comes with its cultish fallout.

  You can't just walk away, family flips out friends flip out, they say really weird and preachy things to you non stop, the elders FORCE themselves into your life, yes you can say no, but they really make it inappropriate how much the push, and use emotional manipulation and private investigating interrogation techniques. To avoid all this, your best bet is to disappear completely. Someone tell me how that is not a undue influence cult?
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  Explaining cult mentality

  by paranoia agent in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iauhr-trkhy.

  check the link above.

  theramintrees did a better job at explaining cognitive dissonance than me.

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  freemindfade

  "stop and smell the Koolaid" lol
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  Explaining cult mentality

  by paranoia agent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iauhr-trkhy.

  check the link above.

  theramintrees did a better job at explaining cognitive dissonance than me.

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  freemindfade

  Very good
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  freemindfade

  "Cults" (high control groups) have "survivors"

  This board and all the other JW survivors are living proof it is what it is. They didn't just change religions, they survived undue control.
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  What other Shenanigans can we expect to see in the next 2 years?

  by John Aquila in

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  its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.

  in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.

  carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .

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  freemindfade

  Tithing... (but they will say oh its not tithing)
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  freemindfade

  Meditate on the double speak

  We don't call it the rapture now...

  We weren't wrong, we are just more refined now...

  We are not permissive to pedophiles...

  One of the best was the summary of TM3's morning worship, this is what it amounted to and is classic watchtower thinking:

  We are not dogmatic, of course you should be able to question what you believe, that is why you must obey us, because we already questioned things for you.

  When you are in and not thinking about it, these types of presentation just don't sink in, when you see it for what it is, wow, look out. I can't even sit through the meetings and watchtower without being mad at myself for hearing all this for so many years and not really "hearing" it. Does that make sense?
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  freemindfade

  When I was waking I watched a documentary from inside North Korea, now that is not a religion, but I was floored by the similarities the religion of my birth shared. Why do they do it? Totalitarian control. So undue influence/high control doesn't need to even be a religion. Or completely believed, like scientology, its science fiction for Xenu's sake!
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  freemindfade

  What happens is many will have a threshold for the questioning. How its said and whats said. When you realize as a member how much you actually have to censor your words and thoughts, you start to realize they had way more control than you ever thought.

  When you see the Cognitive Dissonance alarms go off full blast the first time, there is no doubt in your mind what the JW organization is. It looks like John Aquila's pic which made me laugh out loud
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  Cult or Religion

  by Richard C B in

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  what is a cult and what is a religion?

  its open to debate.

  who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?

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  freemindfade

  If you want to find out if your religion is a High Control cult or not, find out what it takes to leave.