Posts by freemindfade

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AM2015 observations

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

it's was hard to see somewhat of the am 2015 at tv.jw.org.

i have some observations:.

- what's going on with antony morris iii?

freemindfade

The two helpers make AM3 seem almost normal, I wanted to puke. Such weirdos

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Headline: "Islamic Invasion: Europe now scrambles for guns." How true is this?

by cappytan in

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friends

a year to a year and a half ago, i would have taken this article at face value and believed it.. now, i realize this article comes from a dubious source.

world news daily has a die-hard right-wing bias.

so, in an effort to get real information, i'm asking my european exjw's, is this article all true?

Hey everybody! Just droppin' in :)

by macys in

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friends

it feels so good to be free from the jdub cult!

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

freemindfade

Lol

How about this cappy,

"Every time a hater clicks dislike on viv's posts, the desert god collects a foreskin of a gentile"

man that guy's got a thing for foreskins!

I am the bronze age god of jacob! I did not have a creator, but created all things that make you think there is a creator out of nothing, now give me the end of your holy giggle stick!

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

freemindfade

This is how much I believe in what you folks are calling 'God'

The gospel according to my homeboy, Xenu

To cure overpopulation in his Galactic Confederacy, Xenu drugged and paralyzed billions of people after first summoning them for tax inspections, and froze them in ethylene glycol (antifreeze). Then he flew the paralysed people to Teegeack (the name Earth had then, according to LRH) in interstellar rocket planes, which looked like DC-8s, but without jet engines. He stacked them round volcanoes and killed them with hydrogen bombs lowered into the volcanoes.

Take that in for a second.

In Scientology, people are surrounded, covered even, by souls called thetans which cause people to use drugs, get depressed and enjoy Tom Cruise movies. Xenu didn't want the thetans to reincarnate, so he forced them to watch confusing films with horrible lies for thirty-six days. The poor thetans were told they were God, the Devil and Christ. They were all these things together. And they were confused so they believed it. Then the souls left the cinema and started clumping together. And today these souls are clumped round you and me and everyone else. And we can’t get rid of them unless we pay the Scientologists thousands and thousands of pounds, dollars, or euros. It's worth noting that belief in this movie story would require that Christianity be considered nothing more than a delusion picked-up while watching a movie. This contradicts the Scientology claim that their business is compatible with Christianity.

Unfortunately for the Evil Lord Xenu, L. Ron Hubbard made a wonderful discovery: once you have signed over your life savings to the Church of Scientology and gone through thousands of hours of "auditing" sessions with an E-Meter, you can be "clear" of all the "engrams" affecting your subconscious (reactive mind). There are many of these "engrams" stored in each person's brain and auditing just keeps on uncovering more of them going all the way back through all your past lives to the time of the Evil Lord Xenu. This is just the first step. Having been freed from the reactive mind, the "clear" can then go on to become an Operating Thetan, with immense powers to control space, matter, and time.

To become an Operating Thetan, of course, means giving more money to the Church of Scientology and going through several more levels of training. Only during the OTIII (Operating Thetan III) training is a person deemed fit to be told of the above story about Xenu, ethylene glycol, and the volcanoes. OTIII is a very dangerous process and the information revealed in it is deadly to somebody not prepared to handle it. Anyone who has read the above without first going through all the levels is at grave risk of death or pneumonia. Oops, you already read it, didn't you? If you believe all that, Scientology has a "bridge" to sell you, and it ain't cheap.

All the same crazy

In rational terms, logic and evidence appears to dictate that there almost certainly is no requirement for God to exist in the monotheistic sense, and it can be argued that the existence of God leads to logical contradictions.

So you see what you have to do to believe...

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

freemindfade

Can any believers tell me why they don't believe in Vishnu? Zeus? Xenu? Please tell my why you don't believe in them?

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

freemindfade

_Morpheus, whats the over-under on how many pages this is gonna go to?

There is zero evidence to make me believe there is a god, and the idea of a Creator/god seems even more far fetched. This is not a claim that there is no creator/catalyst whatever. Just belief there isn't.

Who created god?

Who is god?

Is he gods?

What is he?

Is it a she? an it? a them? An unintelligent random force? A computer? an alien? YHWH?

what what what???

I can say the god of the bible is utter gibberish, as for whats unknown thats all it is, unknown.

No one should be claiming belief in something they themselves can't even describe if asked.

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Why doesn't God need a creator, while the Universe does?

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

i asked this question of a jw that called on me yesterday: "if the universe requires a creator, why doesn't god?

if the universe must have a beginning, why doesn't god?

he claims to have an answer, but it must wait for next time he calls.. i'm hoping you guys can give me a heads-up as to what he will say.

freemindfade

In the end when their mind turns off the answer will be "because the bible says so" thats always at the end of the circular reasoning before it starts again at the beginning.

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Paranoia after today's Watchtower

by Truthexplorer in

boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

freemindfade

I happened to be attending where some bethel heavies attend this weekend. I noticed there was a lot of pressure in each of their comments that eluded to total information control. Like constantly plugging the broadcasting. The jw movies. They can't come out and say it, but they are getting close to it. Don't look or listen to anything unless it's from jworg. Scary

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the problem with you, apostates, is that your doubts were not genuine

by never a jw in

in page 10 of the correspondence guidelines, in the section of apostasy" i found the following:.

one who has sincere doubts orquestions should be kindly aided inthe spirit of galatians.... i am forced to conclude that many of you didn't get any aid because your doubts were fake.

so according to the wt manual, your main sin may have not been doubting, but faking having doubts.

freemindfade

Standard putting critics in a lose lose position.

If it walks like a cult, and quacks like a cult...