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  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

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  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

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  freemindfade

  Despite the obvious Islamic correlation not yet being drawn, there are some things to consider that make it seem near obvious.

  1. They are Muslim
  2. Disgruntled workers often don't bring wives along on their killing sprees. The two people committing this seems more jihad flavored.
  3. They were very well armed and dressed in tactical wear, contrary to most peoples idea of america, average people don't have these things just laying around. this was planned and deliberate.
  4. FBI was immediately involved.
  5. The hung around and waited for the ensuing fight with the cop. A double suicide attack is not a disgruntled worker.

  If it looks like Mohammed, walks like Mohammed and kills like Mohamed its Islam.
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  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

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  freemindfade

  The only solution is to make it more difficult to own a gun and I think most responsible gun owners want this.

  They do, that is true. What will that accomplish?

  • This will decrease gun deaths overall in the country
  • It will not stop rampage shootings, at best it will cost the perpetrator(s) more money and maybe save them time.

  There are two issues here, you can't roll rampage shooting into the big "american gun-death picture". Lets call them what they are.

  When you see a staged, planned, rampage shooting make the news everyone says "See! This is why we need tighter gun control."

  Its not why. Thousands more die from other shooting that are not high profile premeditated rampage shootings, and reality is gun laws will do little to affect a rampage shooter especially if they are religious extremists. Even if you could make all the guns disappear tomorrow they are going to build big bombs. They are determined to die and take others along.

  My contention is not with tighter gun control, its making Rampage shootings the face of gun control. I think that diminishes the other issues at play. Some rampage shooters buy guns legally, others don't. The only reason some do it legally is because they can, if they can't they still will do it illegally if need be. Just like making drugs illegal, it doesn't make them impossible to get, just more expensive.

  terrorism and rampage shootings are complex and should be treated as such. The Paris attackers seemed to have no trouble walking into a major city and pulling out bombs and AK's. They don't care about laws and politics and people's feelings. They just want to kill people by any means.
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  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  freemindfade

  It's implied to often that America has all the same gun laws across the board and you can just walk in anywhere and anyone can buy anything (gun wise) and that simply is not true. Let's take this instance, it was in California. Not Florida or Texas.

  The gun laws of California are some of the most restrictive in the United States.

  A Firearm Safety Certificate, obtained by passing a written test, is required for gun purchases. Handguns sold by dealers must be "California legal" by being listed on the state's Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale. This roster, which requires handgun manufacturers to pay a fee and submit specific models for safety testing, has become progressively more stringent. Private sales of firearms must be done through a licensed dealer. All firearm sales are recorded by the state, and have a ten-day waiting period. Unlike most other states, California has no provision in its state constitution that explicitly guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. The California Supreme Court has maintained that most of California's restrictive gun laws are constitutional, based on the fact that the state's constitution does not explicitly guarantee private citizens the right to purchase, possess, or carry firearms.
  
  
  Semi-automatic firearms that the state has classified as assault weapons, .50 BMG caliber rifles, and magazines that can hold more than ten rounds of ammunition may not be sold in California. Possession of automatic firearms, and of short-barreled shotguns and rifles, is generally prohibited.
  
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  238

  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

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  2. 
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  freemindfade

  My belief is this.

  Mass shooting, be it deranged loan wolf rampage shooters, or terrorist style shooting like Paris are not a platform for gun control issues. Why do I say this?

  The sheer number of gun deaths in American can be linked to the sheer number of guns. Yes

  Mass shootings regardless of the religion or absence there of are in fact an act of terrorism.

  What does this mean?

  That means premeditate determination to cause massive harm and psychological terror. This type of act is not constrained by laws, finding the proper tools to carry out this type of act is only constrained by how much you are willing to spend. This is something i think people don't fully understand from a gun perspective or a criminal mind perspective.

  How would stricter gun laws change mass shootings?

  Would they make it harder to access firearms?: Yes

  Will they make it impossible? abso-f-cking-lutely not.

  Someone determined and psychotic enough to plan, and execute these suicide terror missions is not going to be encumbered by laws that limit magazine capacity and gun show laws. Honestly. Its not.

  So I say will gun laws will reduce gun deaths in america

  I also say they will have little if any baring on RAMPAGE shootings. They may add to that problem but if you spending anytime reading and watching expert info on them the real problem is way bigger and way more complex than just "guns".

  There are hundreds of millions of guns in america and a lot of people who want to make a lot of money doing illegal things. Ban all guns, what ever you want its only dollars away. Gun laws wont change the customers, they will only change the suppliers.

  I am not opposed to peoples thoughts and opinions on gun control, however using rampage shootings as a platform obscures other issues and capitalizes on fear and emotion.

  What if every week terrorist start shooting up the streets in Europe? Its not a gun issue.

  And irresponsible gun owner allowing their child to access their gun, violent crime, etc are gun ownership issues, terrorism is another issue in of itself.
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  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  freemindfade

  *disclaimer* I am not supporting and gun lobby I am OK with stricter laws.

  Note the handguns belonged to the husband and wife not the assault rifles. Just keep that in mind in the comments. That means two guns were legal and two were not in a sense. Not for them to be in possession of anyway.
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  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  freemindfade

  If the Islam / Radicalization is actually significant then questions that should be asked:
  What were their non-radical religious associates doing?
  Did they know? If not, why not? If so, what did or didn't they do and why?
  Who knew this guy was a risk and why were they silent?

  
  
  
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  238

  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

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  2. 
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  freemindfade

  From what I am hearing the shooter was a devout muslim, last time I checked religion is not a race. I thought you were as unsympathetic to Islam as me?
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  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

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  3. 
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  freemindfade

  It's not the same. Like I said for every person killed in a high profile rampage shooting in America something like 2000 others die without a word. There is a documentary on Netflix by Nova about the mind of rampage shooters. I recommend you watch it. Terrorism and mental health issues maybe be facilitated by availability but not caused by it. It's low hanging fruit for anti gun nuts who to me sound as biased as gun nuts. Unable to separate out the weight of issues and the reality of day to day shootings, terrrorism, and rampage lunatics. Illegal may make things harder but I can tell you from vast experience it makes them far from impossible when you are motivated.

  These calculated planned events aren't happening because someone had a gun and lost their cool. Or someone got a gun and decided to go shoot people. No. Rampage shootings are planned and intended to gain attention and fame.
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  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  freemindfade

  Simon did the Paris shooters have the right to guns??

  I agree gun violence in America and gun availability are related. However any kind of rampage shooting or terrorism is not a gun control issue. For every rampage gun death in America 2000 other people are killed in other shootings. Rampage shooting are the same as acts of terror. Guns available or not they are going to get what they need to harm people.

  Say you out and out ban guns in America tomorrow. There are still as man guns as people here. That's not gonna disappear with "gun control" it someone wants to preach the anti gun lobby they should not use rampage shootings. These are either deranged people or terrorists. Restrict guns fine. Idiots like the Paris shooters will find a way.

  I have no problem saying gun violence in this country is related to gun availability. However. Rampage and terrorist are not a gun issue. If they had ar15's in California that's no small task. The Paris shootings had zero to do with gun laws. The day to day violence in America ok, this type of thing is not that. It's designed for terrorism not because guns
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  238

  Another mass shooting, three or four hours ago.

  by James Mixon in

  1. social
  2. current

  san bernardino california.

  up to 12 people have been killed.. the center a private non-profit agency that assists people with developmental.

  disabilities.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  freemindfade

  Isis shmisis. That's just a hot world for radical Muslims. The shooter was Sayed Farook. Enough said.