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  Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  is it just me?

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  freemindfade

  Beliefs don't change facts. If you are rational facts should change your beliefs.

  This is not just about religion but everything in life. Believe what you like. Facts are facts. That's not porselityzing
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  Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  freemindfade

  People need to remember this is a discussion forum.

  If someone posts anything (even non religious) its fair to expect debate and discussion.

  That continues to perplex me about everyone that feels "attacked"
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  Theism is a Fact #1

  by cofty in

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  nope sorry i got nothing.. wouldn't it be really interesting though if somewhere there was a theist who could challenge unbelievers with facts and evidence?.

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  freemindfade

  Sbf can't you put up some funny pics like us once in a while??? Why so serious, have a whisky and post funny pics.
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  Theism is a Fact #1

  by cofty in

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  nope sorry i got nothing.. wouldn't it be really interesting though if somewhere there was a theist who could challenge unbelievers with facts and evidence?.

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  freemindfade

  I fear, therefore god
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  Theism is a Fact #1

  by cofty in

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  nope sorry i got nothing.. wouldn't it be really interesting though if somewhere there was a theist who could challenge unbelievers with facts and evidence?.

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  freemindfade

  Some charismatic fellow thumping a bible and telling me about reward and punishment said so.

  So my fear of dying by divine punishment and not getting the reward for the righteous is proof of god.

  Fact 1!

  Praise dionysus
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  Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  freemindfade

  No amount of copy and paste about our DNA or common ancestor and whatever which change the fact in a relatively short period of time or milli-second in evolutionary terms can explain who one species went from cave paintings to putting a man on the moon.

  You need to think deeper about time, you seem to be disconnected. Human technology advancement was pretty much a flat line until the last 200 years, and shot up incredibly in the last 70 years. We didn't go from cave painting to the moon so quickly. Also contrary to popular theist belief humans have been around much longer than 6000 years. Homo sapiens are about what? 100,000 years old? Can you even grasp the changes that go on over 100,000 years of homo sapiens much less the staggering 4.5 billion years of earth itself????

  you have made my head hurt...
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  Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  freemindfade

  Some people can take a condescending tone, at times.

  Trying not to offend theists like...

  
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  Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  freemindfade

  • The Earth Orbits the Sun Thanks to Gravity is a Fact

  • The Earth is an Oblate Spheroid is a Fact

  • Our Vision Can Only Detect a Small Part of the Electro-magnetic Spectrum is a Fact

  then would you be quite so offended?

  
  Excellent point simply put
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  Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  freemindfade

  Evolution doesn’t explain an orderly universe with suitable physical laws, A fine-tuned universe, including initial conditions and physical parameters necessary for carbon-based life, a suitable planet, such as Earth, orbiting a suitable star and capable of supporting life and the existence of life in the first place. It also doesn’t explain the self-awareness of man and how one creature seems to have domain over this planet.

  oh my. I don't know where to start with this. I think you have listened to one too many Sunday talks. How do you define "fine tuned"?? Do you know the earth has literally destroyed itself in 5 mass extinctions? It was not fine tuned, it was a mess and still is in ways. it wasn't created for people, we've been here in a fraction of the last second of its existence.

  Lets take probably the biggest one, some 251 million years ago when 96% of earths species were lost.

  Known as “the great dying”, this was by far the worst extinction event ever seen; it nearly ended life on Earth. The tabulate corals were lost in this period – today’s corals are an entirely different group. What caused it? A perfect storm of natural catastrophes. A cataclysmic eruption near Siberia blasted CO2 into the atmosphere. Methanogenic bacteria responded by belching out methane, a potent greenhouse gas. Global temperatures surged while oceans acidified and stagnated, belching poisonous hydrogen sulfide. “It set life back 300 million years,” says Schmidt. Rocks after this period record no coral reefs or coal deposits.
  

  Doesn't sound like fine tuning to me.

  Galaxies collide, asteroids plow into planets, how is that fine tuned?

  Also earth is special but not as special as the watchtower is telling you. There are many more planets in habitable "Goldilocks" zones than we ever knew in the past.