I think this is almost akin to money begging, they are getting desperate to hold members in and its showing. I would not be surprised to see a decline in memorial attendance this year.
freemindfade
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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program
by thedepressedsoul inwow this is interesting!
i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.
they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.
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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program
by thedepressedsoul inwow this is interesting!
i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.
they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.
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freemindfade
I hope the lurkers and thinkers see this and start waking up. The 2014 international was the last scrap of their crap I could stomach. It was that convention i realized they had completely turned a corner. Emotionally driven mega-church.
Wake up lurkers. There is still time to live your life outside this cult.
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Sweet 16 - Happy Birthday to Us !
by Simon init's the forum's 16th birthday today!.
amazing that not only have we lasted so long but we're still thriving and growing.. thanks to all the people and often colorful characters who've contributed to the site over the years.
some are still here with us, some have since moved on, but all have touched each others lives in some way along our different journeys.. .
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freemindfade
Praise dionysus!!!
Of course its not really a birthday party until someone gets their head chopped off!
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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program
by thedepressedsoul inwow this is interesting!
i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.
they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.
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Do Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – AdamDo Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – AbsalomDo Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – SolomonDo Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – Judas Iscariot
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Is this a site controlled by atheists?
by The Rebel inunder the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.
i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.
my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?
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I heard Neil Degrasse Tyson say some thing very interesting on the radio a few weeks back. They were talking about the flat earth movement. And him and one well known rapper going back and forth on Twitter about it. But what I thought was interesting that he said he would not debate it and he wasn't. But he did say that when someone presented "evidence" that he would correct them when its bs.
This site is like a debate class. You can't say anything without it being turned into a debate competition whether you are trying to debate something or not. In day to day life I don't debate atheism and I don't try to preach it. I will call bs on some things if faulty information is given. Or biased information. I was never a good pushy witness I think I'm not a very good pushy atheist lol. Too lazy maybe??? I will give my opinion from time to time though (if solicited of course). :)
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Is this a site controlled by atheists?
by The Rebel inunder the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.
i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.
my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?
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freemindfade
I think there were (are) a lot of smart witnesses drinking koolaid. When they put the cup down they wake up to the fact that the bible is epic bullshit. And yhwh is no more real than batman.
I don't believe its just and exjw thing. I think in the time we live in its harder and harder to believe irrational myths and superstitions and seem like a sane person.
I woke up to the bible being total crap and there being no big J in the sky first, before learning ttatt and dumping out the koolaid.
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Terrorist attack in Belgium
by ILoveTTATT2 incheck the news.
there was a terrorist attack in brussells, couple of bombs detonated in the brussell airport and the metro.. 36 dead so far.. i send my sincerest condolences to the people of belgium.. the motive seems to be revenge for the capture of the last surviving member of the paris terrorist attacks..
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freemindfade
The fruits of religion
very sad
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Jehovah's Witness Literature Warning Label
by freemindfade ini just had a thought.
the government should do what they did with the tobacco industry and prescription drug industry and force the watchtower corporation (also mormons and scientologists, etc) to print warnings on its misleading literature and pamphlets.
they can have all their paradise panda petting, fruit eating, khaki pleated pants wearing bullshit propaganda on the front.
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Warning: Joining cults is harmful to your mental and social health. It can lead to: shunning, depression, loss of life, loss of friends, loss of family, uncontrollable fear, rampant guilt, shame, protection of pedophiles. Consult a mental health professional before trying this cult.
Maybe that would be better lol
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Jehovah's Witness Literature Warning Label
by freemindfade ini just had a thought.
the government should do what they did with the tobacco industry and prescription drug industry and force the watchtower corporation (also mormons and scientologists, etc) to print warnings on its misleading literature and pamphlets.
they can have all their paradise panda petting, fruit eating, khaki pleated pants wearing bullshit propaganda on the front.
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I just had a thought. The government should do what they did with the tobacco industry and prescription drug industry and force the Watchtower corporation (also Mormons and Scientologists, etc) to print warnings on its misleading literature and pamphlets. They can have all their paradise panda petting, fruit eating, khaki pleated pants wearing bullshit propaganda on the front. But a little box on the back page maybe?
WARNING: This group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leaders and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s). The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth). The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity). The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society. The leaders are not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations). The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities). The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion. Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. The group is preoccupied with making money. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members. The most loyal members feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group. Join at your own risk.
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Don't Accept the Blame for Being Shunned
by cofty inour family and friends blame us for the fact that they shun us.
imagine an abusive husband who threatened his wife that if she leaves him he will hunt her down and kill her.
eventually she finds the courage to leave and he carries out his threat.
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freemindfade
This is a very valuable OP. Once you breakthrough exactly what he has said you've made a big step in freeing your mind. When I really got over this during the beginning of my waking I went from feeling bad for myself to feeling bad for them! They are making an awful choice, its a shame for them. The best people in your lives are the ones that stick by you no matter what, anyone else you can afford to lose, they will either come around or not but you need to go forward and only look back to see how far you've come.
