Posts by freemindfade

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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

freemindfade

It implies hate and it is them exercising their freedom of speech. Just like the kkk. Its ugly. But it is making it more evident to those outside what they are about.

My position is its messed up and the noise its making is good and should not be complained about as lies. Just like the Noah cartoon gave the world a glance inside. I support this the same way I support tm3, I think its sick but the world is getting a glimpse inside.

All i care about is the ugliness of this video not get dulled and sweapt away but continue to be viral for as long as it can. The effect that this can have inside the cult and at doors and at carts is good by me. A more visible manifestation of this crap religion.

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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

freemindfade

It shouldnt be banned. Only a feew decades ago most people wouldnt have a colorful cartoon to tell them how anti gay the witnesses really were. You'd have to ask the question and bring it up. Sure it was in the watchtower but who the hell read that??? Witnesses have always been masters at promoting specific doctrine and dogma in ambiguous language.

This cartoons message is clear and I don't think people are reading too much into just because the wt legal team made sure they didn't use any specific hate words. It is a message of discrimination, a turd wrapped in shinny paper. It says volumes.

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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

freemindfade

Why try to turn their misstep into something that it isn't and possible give people a reason to point and say "see, typical apostate lies" as a get-out.

This is what disturbs me. Not that any of you don't think this is a big deal, but you are essentially saying anyone calling this cartoon production homophobic is "lying". If you don't believe this video promotes discrimination at a child level go watch it again.

Definition of homophobia. : irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

freemindfade

How dare you fail to be outraged steve2

When things like this are said simon it is clear that there is criticism that anyone outraged is over reacting.

Its not anger that this is new doctrine. Its the filth of making a kids cartoon about it. No they don't say hate gays. So what? It's a clear message aimed at children. Its a step further and the outrage should exist. Maybe when tm3 spewed his rhetoric some of you said the same thing. Its nothing new. But how many that have woken up sinc then reference it as a turning point??? Why soften a wt mistep by criticizing those who are shocked at the low they will sink to?

Maybe the attention the issue receives is taking too much attention away from how great you can all argue endless semantics ad nauseam.

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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

freemindfade

For someone with a daughter who will have to go to shool with witnesses this video offends me greatly

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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

freemindfade

If the video was a mother explaining to her child how Muslims can't enter into paradise this forum would be beside itself in how "racist" it is. This board is so ironic sometimes.

Something actually worthy of social anger comes along (kids being programmed for homophobia in a cartoon) and its "what is everyone so upset about?"

Again maybe you guys have been away from actual witnesses too long, the sugar coating in the cartoon and in watchtowers does not reflect how vitriol and homophobic witnesses actually are.

The way this cartoon deals with children is what I find most outrageous. What does "not getting into paradise" mean to a witness??? Cofty? Simon? Steve2?? Does little Sophia and all other jw kids know what that means? Bet your ass they do. And if you think it doesnt have that implication congratulations. You've forgotten what it was like to be a witness. Even non-witness journalists have enough brains to figure out the message.

Why don't you guys believe the the witnesses don't shun people?? Same principle. With cults its less about he definition of words and their implication in context of the cult system. You are denying the message based on the semantics of the words used when the purpose couldn't be more clear. "It didn't say her parents will die at Armageddon so the implication doesn't exist right?"

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Angst and the Jehovah's Witness Mindset

by cofty in

there is no typical jw personality type.. any of us who were in the religion for a number of years will remember all sorts of individuals.

there is as much variety among jws as there is in the general population.

some were arrogant and judgemental but others were humble and kindly.

freemindfade

I agree with this op whole heartedly. 100%. Letting go of that angst and seeing the world for what it really is is an unimaginable weight off your shoulders. When you are out and go back and listen to any public talk you will see how much of an angst buble the witnesses live in.

Also learning that action instead of "preaching" and useless dogma makes much more of difference in the world

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

freemindfade

Is this an episode of The Path?

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JWTV May Broadcast is up. hosted by an old burnt hot dog

by Dreamerdude in

what's up with jw parents taking their minor children to such desolate places?

like the english family that took their little kids to the jungles of ecuador, and the australians that took their little ones to norfolk island where hardly anyone lives, and they are the only children in a congregation of 11 publishers?

is this a new form of child abuse?

freemindfade

My experience with family member that is career need greater is its more of a lifestyle than a mission. Doing all the pioneering crap just keeps them in the lifestyle.

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Suffering and existence of God

by elbib in

many people find it difficult to reconcile suffering and existence of god.

it seems they feel that it is god’s obligation to shield humans from ill-effects of their short-sighted acts..

people’s hobby has something to do with this kind of reasoning!

freemindfade

The universe is indifferent, there is no "God", that's not so difficult to reconcile