Posts by freemindfade

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Freedom of speech?

by The Rebel in

attending my boys parents evening it was mentiond they were to study the " diary of anne frank".

( he is 10 years old) i pointed out to the teacher that having read the book, in my option the book was not written entirely by anne frank, and i would educate my boy on why i believe this to be so.. in my mind this was a totally reasonable responce by me, but it has resulted in the head-master of the school wanting to meet with me.

i think it wrong that an educational system will i suspect meet with me and presumably suggest my options on the " anne frank diary" constitute hate speech, as nothing could be further from the truth.. freedom of speech is never absolute, but at what point do you think it reasonable and justified?

freemindfade

Freedom of speech is never absolute, but at what point do you think it reasonable and justified?

Its reasonable as long as others are allowed to criticize the speech of the other exercising their freedom.

Cult like JWS and Islam demand freedom of religion/speech, but prohibit from others.

Idiotic things like JW indoctrination cartoons and KKK hate demonstrations are allowed but the majority are allowed to tell them they are f--cking idiots. This freedom, and the freedom to criticize should keep things in check, once that is lost one extreme will take over.

Freedom of speech is only dangerous when it becomes one sided, when you are the good extremism as long as you are the right kind of extreme.

Freedom of speech HAS to be absolute to work. So a few crack pots can say whatever they want as long as they can be challenged not silenced.

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Damaging Children With the Christian Gospel

by cofty in

the christian gospel begins with the dehumanising assertion that all humans are fallen sinners who deserve nothing but god's judgement and wrath.. not only does this taint all relationships between christians and unbelievers, it destroys the beautiful innocence of childhood.

in a recent edition of the popular christian radio program "family life today", titled “introducing your child to god,” co-host bob lepine discussed teaching “practical theology” to his young daughter, explaining:.

when my daughter, amy, was still less than two years old, i started teaching practical theology to her.

freemindfade

*barf*

I hate what religion does to kids. Religion is about selling a sickness that doesn't exist then selling the cure. Cowards passing on their world of fear to the next generation.

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Why do witnesses feel the need to put JW ORG on all their social media sites?

by stuckinarut2 in

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have you all noticed the obsession witnesses have of putting jw.org on all their social media sites like facebook, twitter, instagram etc?.

so many put it in their bio section...like some sort of loud proclamation to other witnesses that they are righteous and spreading the message.. it's also very lazy.

now with no personal effort at all, they can just say jw.org and be "witnessing".

freemindfade

Being a JW is mostly about showing other JWS just how "JW" you are. Not even unbelievers but fellow sheeple. I was criticized back before I was wholesale shunned for not having any pics on my instagram from conventions, out in service, etc. This was from people who just months earlier considered social media to be the devil.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

freemindfade

I think generally they don't care because the witnesses historically were known to the outside as doorstep sales people. That was their biggest identifier among nonjw. With the last two years they a re becoming more visible for other things. Part or their becoming more "mainstream" in their actions.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

freemindfade

The bible teaches that slavery is great (same way it denounces homosexuality) now it a religious group made a cartoon with a mom teaching her child in a warm and fuzzy way how there is nothing wrong with slavery. Everyone would flip out. Because its in the bible doesn't give it a pass. Freedom of religion is fine. Be in the kkk and make racist cartoons or make cartoons about gay people but why should it be shielded from criticism for what it is?

The bible is full of ethnic genocide, slavery and mistreatment of women. If anyone wants to make a cartoon about any of that I'm gonna call that out, not because they put that in the bible but because they are keeping it alive in a really distasteful way.

Cofty you keep asking how else should they deliver their message? I don't think that is the point here. The point is the message is ugly and when tm3 bellows it from a worldwide stage or when they make a cartoon it makes it more real against the backdrop of modern society and this just might wake people up . How many jolted awake by tm3? That didn't go against the bible doctrine. We need to say that this propaganda piece doesn't work in modern society. I don't care if its from the bible or Quran or whatever. Its practicing and teaching discrimination.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

freemindfade

Cofty you asked me a question earlier but I was driving about what I would do. Well now I would tell my daughter her teacher is right. Before I was exjw I might have struggled to explain it in a nice way (as I was never good at judging people). But I would have had a discrimination mentality no matter how soft I tried yo make it and I would be passing it along to my daughter. If there was a scale for discrimination this might not be between 5-10 but it would be on the scale.

The reasons that you guys protest for the video are the things that I think make it so insidieous and ugly. Trying to paint dissemination as a cute kids story with safe words that isnite hate without saying it.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

freemindfade

So condemning a biracial couple and a same sex couple are tantamount or not? What's the difference? Whether is bible or harry potter..

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

freemindfade

Steve2 cofty and Simon. With a simple yes or no answer if this video with the exact same message and presentation dealt with biracial couples instead of homosexual would it be considered discrimination? Yes or no? If everything you are pontificating on is true you should be able to just say no. Go ahead.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

freemindfade

Why do you think the video was made for children? The video is in childish ambiguous paradise-speak for a reason. They couldn't make an adult version of this and get away with it.

Very good point

Cofty and SImon i feel like you are playing along with the witness ignorance of the awful things they promote.

can you imagine a witness saying "we don't shun people, we just don't let them on the plane, they have to leave the airport" whelp guess they don't practice barbaric shunning because they said it like that. lol come on now.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

freemindfade

Where does the bible condemn interracial marriage?

What does that have to do with discrimination??? does the source/origin somehow absolve it ???, Israelites were taught to not mix with the nations. there ya go. Who care if its from the bible or any other book of ignorance.

The point is teaching your kids biracial marriage is wrong or gay marriage is wrong is the same damn thing. And its sick for anyone to make a cartoon about it

"But there was nothing in the video itself suggesting that she talk about anything but paradise and animals." - Simon

Yea that is exactly the way active witness talk about homosexuals. they just talk about panda's and polo's tucked into pleated khaki's and a garden. lol

Again witnesses speak very ugly and abusively of homosexuals. The implication and point of the video accomplishes what it is suppose to. Discrimination.