Also I said prove it scripturally, the fact that 7:4 uses a definite (144,000) and 7:9 uses indefinite (great crowd) proves dick. What about the definite numbers in 7:5-8
From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.
144,000 is supposedly literal and these are all symbolic, these scriptures in between the ones your "scholars" cherry picked blow their "logic" away. Lots of "definite" numbers in revelation are considered symbolic by JWS,
try again... I'll be waiting