I tend to discount sources like Fox, Breitbart and Trump himself
I was sighting a report, not fox news or Breitbart or trump. It's from the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
freemindfade
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
I am saying the wall is not as expensive as "not having the wall". If increased security knocks that $113 Billion Dollar number down by more than its cost ($21 Billion) doesn't it make sense from a financial perspective?
Also, we are far from isolating, I have lived in three of the most diverse states in America, we are ok and that's not going to change anytime soon.
No one is banning immigration, America has always had a yearly target for immigration. It's not going to stop. Working against undocumented immigration is not stopping immigration.
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
Any of his policies get lost in how much people dislike (him personally) his brash sometimes rude and childish style. But to be fair you have to look past that stuff for yourself to realize most of it is not the end of the world. We get it, no one likes him, let him try and save us a little money at least lol
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
Annual cost/burden of illegal immigration $133 Billion ($29 billion at the federal level and $84 billion at the state and local level) > $21 billion for increased security.
Fiscally speaking
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
Well then we agree. I don't think the wall is about hate, and no matter how the orange baffoon Trump spews it, it wasn't even his idea. I believe Mexico hates it so much not because its racist, but because he keeps saying they will pay for it lol.
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
Exactly.
I will not defend Trump for anything he does, but I find it Ironic how people lost their minds over his doing many of the same things Dems have done in the past.
Travel restriction is unconstitutional when he does it, but when Obama did it, that was ok. lol its funny
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
Why are you talking about the "Muslim ban" now???? I thought we were talking about the wall? I have never said anything Trump has said has not been stupid or have the ring of hate/ignorance, not once, still you bring it up as I am supporting him. We have been discussing how the efforts to beef up southern border security, aka "The Wall", is hateful. Dont change the subject
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
You said the wall is hate, I asked why, you said basically nothing.
The wall is bad optics
Well you are either looking through the optics of 1. the media or 2. trump, why not look at it through the people actually driving it, the border patrol! that is problem, no one looks at these things without the media filter on.
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
look at my statements referencing trumps plan and how it relates to nationalist populism and Brexit.
What statements? I am still looking for a clear explanation. I have given you facts as to why the southern border is more an issue than the northern, also why there is a need for improvement prompted by the actual border patrol, who someone else pointed out is not all white men. And you have given me nothing, if anything this whole discussion has led me to believe its a better idea than I had originally thought lol. Good job!
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade
I have no idea what you are talking about azor. I am still waiting for how you define the border wall as "Hate". Its clearly more than a trump tweet and actually a thing.