If someone is promising you a utopian idea Ruby you are being deceived. This denial the realities of Islam is a complete delusion.
freemindfade
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
Clearly
afraid I have no time for Sam Harris,s silly opinions
and you think that is his opinion and not reality???
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
Take a moment to reflect upon the existence of the musical The Book of Mormon. Now imagine the security precautions that would be required to stage a similar production about Islam. The project is unimaginable—not only in Beirut, Baghdad, or Jerusalem, but in New York City.-Sam Harris
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
the majority of muslims are like the majority of christians
No one is talking about them, and I already made that differentiation. The majority of Muslims seeking asylum you sure as shit better believe go to mosques and are not by any stretch moderate! what universe are you living in?
Like I always say to everyone who tries to say there is no difference, draw a cartoon of Jesus and one of Mohammad, and find out how moderate and peaceful Islam is.
This has been gone over to no end, neo-Nazi's and wacky fundamentalists are on the fringe of modern global Christianity, Islam is the opposite, the moderates make up the outsiders while the extremists are at the theological center.
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
Trump's just upset because he couldn't get any in Sweden. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
You might be on to something, Swedish ladies are quite pretty
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
freemindfade: I have tried to make exactly that distinction (a moderate Muslim vs. an Islamist, moderate Islam vs. Islamism) for a week on this forum and I get called a left-winger every time; be careful!
It's a tough subject. The moderates have a huge role in insulating the radical fundamentalists IMO. This obsession we have created with not criticizing Islam is protecting the fundamentalists. So I understand the slippery slope.
Case and point, Maajid Nawaz, someone who's activism (much like an exjw activist, or a leah remini with Scientology), his voice could go a long way in changing the religion, but he is silenced by who? Extremists? no by moderates, and institutions in America. He has been put on the SPLC list of anti-islamic extremists... that is insane! He is also not welcome to speak on CNN as far as I know, can't confirm it, but I know he is not liked.
So while there is a difference between a 'Muslim' and an 'Islamist' its time the moderates step up to clean their own house, and they do that by allowing the religion to be subject to criticism, satire and free speech.
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
I completely agree with. Islam as it is practiced in e.g. Saudi Arabia is not compatible with western values at all.
I think it's important to recognize a difference between someone claiming to be a Muslim, and an Islamist.
I think there are Muslims detached from the Islamic political ideology, but not many coming from Syria, Iraq and so on that lived under the theocracy.
I almost think it's like someone who studies with JWs, or was raised as one, but never got baptized, then someone asks them their religion, and they say JW, they aren't really deep in fundamentalist jws.
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
He claimed an incident happened in Sweden that didn't happen.
yes... and no... lol
He was unclear at best, but clarified via his own news channel, twitter
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
What is being missed is that any comparison of Sweden and the US has to take into account that relative to Sweden the US hardly takes in refugees at all.
That is true. I agree.
I think the reality of failed integration (which I personally feel has more to do with Islam than any other factor) is something to consider regardless of the amount of the immigrants. I saw one statistic that out of 163,000 asylum seekers only around 500 are employed. This can happen for a number of reasons, but I also still firmly believe many of these individuals are not looking to mix with societies they consider infidels.
America allows immigration, America is a nation OF immigrants, we are not anti-imigrant. When we show concern about two hot topics in this election:
- Undocumented immigrants
- Refugees
We are not dismissing immigration.
I am just going to throw this out there, and it's gonna get all kinds of hate, and reason why I am wrong, but because of the person I am I wonder something about these refugees. Why not fight for your god damn country? Maybe it's an American rebellious asshole thing, but rise the f-ck up and handle your business.
There are certainly a lot of them? No?
Anyway my biggest point is not crime statistics or numbers, but the reality that people who hold on to Islam as a religion, PLUS as a political, life permitting ideology to cult-like levels, are not going to have peaceful integration. No matter how big or small. I lived in a neighborhood in NYC that had a huge population of Arab immigrants, Muslim and Christian. I can tell you from first-hand experience they DO NOT integrate the same, same people, same race, different religion, night and day.
Having lived that and seeing it with your own eyes, they way they treat women IN AMERICA, it's not the granola, utopian bullshit illiberals are portraying at women's marches and protests (riots). It's just not. Like I said, if Islam was a club you would find those that belong despicable, but it's not, its a religion... full of dangerous ideas.
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What did President Trump say about Sweden?
by kpop inthis you will never see on the mainstream media.
before you comment watch the whole video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.
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freemindfade
Sweden is a champion of taking in asylum seekers, and a complete failure at integrating them, probably because of biting off more than they can chew, and because Islamists don't integrate with the enemy. So do you blame Sweden for the failed integration???
Is it fair to say that trump could be correct in that it's not what Sweden expected as far a integration into society goes?