bohm I think the problem is you are trying to discuss ISIS vs Islam, and to me that's not the discussion. ISIS is one crap part of it, but its not all, its not all the terrorists, it's not all the human rights that Islam violates. saying "good" Muslim has too many interpretation of what "good means to too many people. Adherents is probably a better word, and yes, scumbags ISIS or otherwise who base their bullshit on the Quran are very adherent. Hows that?
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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lol
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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freemindfade
Denouncing the ISIS as un-Islamic or "bad" Muslims is counterproductive, especially if those who hear the message have read the holy texts and seen the endorsement of many of ISIS's practices written plainly within them.
After all the atrocities we see, if Muslims go about their lives, they stand condemned by those who demand that Muslims “speak out.” But if they do speak out, they can expect to be told that short of declaring their sacred texts invalid, they are fooling themselves or deceiving the rest of us.
Catch 22, but a sure case of its not like other religions. It needs to be criticized
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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And that is at the crux of it despite some best efforts to make false equivalence arguments and pick at details.
Freedom to offend
Islam is NOT like any other religion
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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freemindfade
Many here express that those who speak out against Islam or criticize those who shield and defend it are afraid of it in some way or spreading fear aka islamaphobia. Is that really the case? What I fear, is the lengths people will go to in order to defend it. The way it has gained some special case provision by irrational people trying to be socially trendy.
The TREATMENT of Islam and those who criticize it is the scary part. Not Islam. This irrationality that will quickly turn on free speech before some bronze age death cult frightens me. The lack of "Freedom to offend" that almost all other religions on earth have to deal with.
Take a moment to reflect upon the existence of the musical The Book of Mormon. Now imagine the security precautions that would be required to stage a similar production about Islam. The project is unimaginable—not only in Beirut, Baghdad, or Jerusalem, but in New York City.-Sam Harris
Our critic-censorship and protection of a shameful, disgusting set of bad ideas (Islam) is the height of stupidity and the thing we should be worried about as a free society!
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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100% agree, Islam has more than enough characteristics to be categorized as a cult, A DEATH CULT. Yea plenty of us live in America, or other developed countries, and we know people who are "secular" Muslims, and yea, they are chill. But Islamic countries, at the center of all this, are shitholes of human rights abuses and totalitarian nonsense.
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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I forgot, you get more SJW oppression street cred for defending Islam. Silly me
- Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
- Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood (9:123)
- When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
- Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
- Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
- The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
- Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam (5:33)
- The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
- Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19)
- Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
- The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
- Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
- Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
- Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels
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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS
by kpop inso it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.
how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?
how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.
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freemindfade
Despite the massively disproportionate amount of terror attacks across the globe, does anyone here give a shit that Islam is one of the biggest disrespecters of human rights?
Islam = Moderates on the Fringe, fundamentalists at the center
Other Religions = Moderates at the center, fundamentalists on the fringe
Defending Islam is a complete disregard for all true liberal ideologies.
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Watchtower & Guns
by freemindfade inapparently jehalapeno isn't a 2nd amendment supporter either.... .
july 17 questions from readers.... the way this part is worded screams cult to me, i was quite amused.. how a christian chooses to protect himself, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter, as is his choice of employment.. geee!
thanks watchtower for allowing me to "largely chose my own employment" you are a generous cult lol.
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Yyyyyyep
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Watchtower & Guns
by freemindfade inapparently jehalapeno isn't a 2nd amendment supporter either.... .
july 17 questions from readers.... the way this part is worded screams cult to me, i was quite amused.. how a christian chooses to protect himself, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter, as is his choice of employment.. geee!
thanks watchtower for allowing me to "largely chose my own employment" you are a generous cult lol.
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freemindfade
Same caliber. Different cartridge.