curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
But there are known individuals
Goodale said there are between 180 and 190 with a connection to Canada that they know have travelled to Syria and Iraq, among other locations.
As well, there are roughly 60 foreign fighters who have returned to Canada, about the same number as two years ago.
There is a difficulty when you don't know
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
As its known there are dire consequences (ie. France) when you are too openly liberal to people's inherent religious beliefs
True, although I fully support all religious beliefs, banning beliefs is no good. That being said, I don't think its wrong to monitor those who hold radical or questionable beliefs and practices and punish them without it being called racism. Also if someone joined ISIS the last thing they deserve is reintegration, they should be reintegrated into the dirt
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
Ruby456
I know you won't answer the question straightforward or intellectually, but here it goes anyway...
Yes or no, do you think it is wise for Canada to 'reintegrate' anyone who got on a plane to fight for ISIS and watched as allied soldiers were burned to death in a cage, who got on a plane to go to fight for an organization that sells women and girls into slavery, people who left Canada to fight for a group of people who push homosexuals off buildings just for being gay?
Just keep in mind, this is not about ISIS member sliding back in amongst immigrants, but knowingly being reintegrated, and regardless of them committing a terrorist attack on Canada or not, you are knowingly letting some of the most atrocious people on earth off the hook. It's about the leader of an entire country inviting ISIS terrorists/criminals who fought against their country and western values with the promise of reintegration services to help them,”
Canada:
lmao
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
There are two forces at play in politics and belief, without naming the sides in typical fashion, let's just say one is on its extreme is being driven by "hope" and the other on its extreme "fear". If you go too far into either of these its a problem, the goal should be to be centric and based on reality. This reintegrating of ISIS jihadists, to me is the swinging too far to the "hope" side. Hope is a beautiful thing and we should always temper it with some level of realism. Its the same with fear, fear can lead to terrible things with humans and atrocities, still, a realistic, healthy amount, should be involved in your policy.
For instance, maybe you are living the fantasy land of Narnia if you think you can just hope away the fact that these ISIS fighters cling to extremely ignorant and dangerous ideas completely at odds with all of our western values, then proceed accordingly.
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
What is the dark intellectual web? I never heard this phrase before. Can I have a few URLs so I can see where you are coming from?
That was a phrase just recently coined by Eric Weinstein about a growing group of people having open discussions, they have varied ideas, and philosophies, but the one thing they all share is that they are for free speech and open discussion. Most are labeled alt right now, even some who are definitely liberal in political compass. Its a movement. Some of the people I would say that are spearheading it and have been demonized by the authoritarians and embraced by people tired of being over censored are:
Dave Rubin
Sam Harris
Eric & Bret Weinstein
Jordan Peterson
Joe Rogan
Ben Shapiro
and many more
They have some fascinating conversations, Agree or disagree with what they say, they ask the right questions and keep discussions going. For instance, in most every way, Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris are at odds, but they have the willingness to have the discussions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ekHVXkkcCM
“Everything is up in the air right now from our political institutions, from the to our educational institutions to our media institutions. If the dial of ideas was turned on low for the last few years it is quickly moving into the hot position.”
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
I dont see that as a problem, might even be progressively good and forward thinking in modern secular awareness and acceptance of gender neutrality.
The problem is, many of today's self-proclaimed "Liberals" are neither liberal or progressive, in fact, they are bordering on the realm of anti-science most the time and pushing the needle of authoritarianism further and further. If you can't stand back and see that happening, you are listening to the wrong conversations and news.
And it's being pushed by a large force (of whatever you want to call it). I, and everyone I know, and even some people who are considered controversial on the subject of gender pronouns, would give someone the courtesy of calling them by their preferred pronoun. But that isn't enough, you get this type of Trudeau nonsense, and you get people who could face legal charges and being labeled as hate for misgendering someone, either intentionally or unintentionally.
And the problem continues down this authoritarian path, namely the obstruction of truly free speech, curbing fact and scientific discussion in favor of emotive outrage, trying to make laws around something that is nebulous and "fluid". There are heavy implications here. There is much larger discussion intellectuals are willing to have, and it's getting most of them labeled as bigots, even though they are by all accounts truly politically liberal and progressive.
This PC utopian movement should be far more frightening to all of you. You are spending all your time on hating Trump and his bombastic wrecking ball nature, and not giving an ear to what the hell happened to create President Trump and finding a rational way of fixing it. Trump isn't the one anyone wanted break up what is going on, but he is the person (for good or bad) that has shaken it up to reveal some pretty ugly truths about where we are heading. So instead of curling up in this cult-like bubble of authoritarian leftism, start taking a real look at what is happening. Find out what your core values are and who you might share common ground with that you are shunning because of your blind hate for the Trumpanator.
The Democrats in this country could so easily beat Trump if they wanted to, but instead, they are radically doubling down on the same bullshit, even more, rabidly than before, that gave us this anomaly. Real liberals and real progressives need to stop being ostracized and shunned by the authoritarian left for calling out crap like this Trudeau thing because the right is accepting them with open arms even though many of their political ideas are not "conservative". Journalism has turned into political activism (right and left, but left owns most the media), celebrities are posturing as intellectuals and our moral compass... give me a break, I hope the era of these Trudeau hypocrites are almost passed us.
“You can’t wish yourself into a better tomorrow because you will try to create a utopia...and utopia always leads to dystopia...You cannot make a cosmology or an epistemology out of oppression and resistance. It leads to madness." -- Eric Weinstein
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
in these days, with north korea, global warming and the fear a robot might take our jobs...
"in these days, with north korea, global warming and the fear a robot might take our jobs," this shit weasel excuse should not spend as much energy on being a political correctness zealot and invite known terrorists into his country.
Trudeau represents something the majority of the rational world and dark intellectual web see through, a virtue signaling social justice warrior obsessed with trivial things that are not worth discussing right now, or the discussing is wrong and one-sided.
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
Wel At least we do know who the idiots are and it certainly isn,t Trudeau
Typical non-contribution of anything resembling a discussion or debate. Just nebulous outrage, good job!
the falcon heavy is set to launch today.
if successful, it will become the most powerful rocket in use (twice as powerful as the delta heavy).. as it's the very first attempt, elon musk has said he thinks there's a 50/50 chance of it not blowing up.
so should be interesting.
That was truly awesome to watch
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
Then he goes to ask how 10-15 years from now how letting people with an opposing ideology is going to look for his daughter.
Is an ISIS fighter NOT an ideologue? How the hell are you trying to separate that out? He said ideology so he is only speaking about Muslim?. The fact is, that as crazy as it sounds, Trudipsh*t is all for bringing actual ISIS ideologues into this country to be rehabilitated by magic socialist fairy dust. Its a far bigger stretch for you to make it about refugees simply because that's the way a slick politician chose to answer an uncomfortable question.
The man specifically questioned his stance on ISIS not refugees! that was clear. Paying out 10 million dollars to a former ISIS soldier is his stance, thinking they can invite jihadists in (not refugees, but actual jihadists) is his stance.
Nothing to see here, just playing with pandas
