Posts by freemindfade

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

I notice you posted a list of resources you followed earlier and I note many of them seem to have a distinct anti-liberal bend. Which distinctly liberal sources do you expose yourself to?

Jacobi. Can you explain to me how Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, Dave Rubin or Eric Weinstein are not liberals? I mean... Dave Rubin is a gay jewish man living in LA married to another man, and he smokes pot... Besides those, I also listen to Bill Maher (didn't mention him), and some others, I even tune into WaPo and CNN to hear really insane radical liberalism that defies intelligent thought completely.

So jacobi:

If you agree they (Sam, Bret, Eric, Dave) are Liberals, your question (as like much of what you post here) is pointless and transparent.
If you think they are not liberal you need to explain to us all why?

I'm curious where you have devised this measuring mechanism of the One True liberal religion? Tell me more... I see being liberal (again) as tolerance and "progressive" ideas, not a cult-like leftist movement, that if you don't check every one of their approved ideological boxes you are disfellowshipped.

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

PC Culture has a down side. Its all great and warm and fuzzy to look out for peoples feelings, but unfortunately this idea can be used (intentionally or otherwise) to justify social intolerance of all kinds of disagreement and thus become a tool for dogmatic ideological control of society. I think this is what we are seeing happening in many places.

Liberalism and progressiveness should be about TOLERANCE. Tolerance means to be willing to endure the existence of, and exposure to, what you dislike.

I am not referring specifically to the changing of the words in the song, but just the slippery slope of oversensitive PC culture. Hell, hardly anything is funny anymore! Partly because the truth can be both offensive and funny.

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

Over all I think Trudeau has been doing a pretty good job representing Canada.
Some things I question but he's certainly openly engaged and intentionally transparent to the population more than any Canadian Prime Minister that I can think of.

Fair opinion. I don't know enough about Canadian PM's to say any different honestly.

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

Apparently, viewed in context of the woman's earlier remarks, this was a joke that Trudeau made. Only when taken out of context does it sound like a stupid liberal remark of the kind conservatives enjoy caricaturing

Right... Because he said it was a joke 48 hours after the fact. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

I don't even know what you are talking about anymore. Its all laid out in the constitution. What is considered "speech". Harmful expressions and communications are not constitutional speech. And if you consider something that hurts your feelings "harmful" sorry that's not gonna get suppressed. You just need to get hurt feelings.

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

When the government tries to regulate or punish any kind of communication, a number of questions must be answered to determine if the controls will survive a constitutional challenge. The most basic is whether the conduct to be controlled qualifies as “speech.”

This is where you are trying to twist this in a strawman way that any communication constitutes "speech". I personally don't feel trying to ban everything is the way to go, but the government doesn't see it that way, they have controls, but the above line is what you should familiarize yourself with

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

A theater is a private sector, free speech does not apply there. Private entities and private spaces, however, are largely not required to protect your speech, and the first amendment does not protect what you say—only your right to speak. And the first amendment already has limits in this country:

To incite actions that would harm others (e.g., “[S]hout[ing] ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.”).

Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919).
To make or distribute obscene materials.
Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957).
To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).
To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration.
Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988).
Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event.
Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986).
Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event.
Morse v. Frederick, __ U.S. __ (2007).

Publishing a bomb making guide, or yelling in a theatre have nothing to do with what the first amendment is about.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

the bacon and eggs/Cathy cartoon

that's not a cartoon, that's a REAL picture of a REAL video. It's a visual aid to help understand how illogical you are arguing. Perhaps you should watch the video to see what NOT to do, instead of calling it a cartoon.

should it be allowed to yell "fire" in a crowded theater

please enlighten me, how would a ban on speech stop anyone from doing that? It wouldn't magically make the words disappear. Every time stupid people act out, you can't just make another ban. Your ban ends up limiting the rights of law-abiding people simply so you have a tool to punish people that are idiots.

Attempting to ban bomb-making information is like trying to catch sand through a sieve. The Internet has opened the floodgates of knowledge no one can close. Even if attempted self-censorship by Internet search engines and social media websites successfully kept the flood of information at bay, other websites would continue to publish and there would always be the print versions of these instructions.

You see how that works? Turns out terrorists are smarter than you, and won't adhere to your bans, criminals always find a workaround, so it makes no sense to push the rights of civil people into dystopia for the bad apples.

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

It is interesting for someone who is pro free speech my speech made you so upset you have to post cartoons as an outlet

I have posted NO cartoons, especially about anything you have said. Once again, you are pulling stuff out of your rear end. I have said nothing to limit your speech, just criticized your inability to coherently discuss or debate. Also, anyone who did post a cartoon was not doing anything to infringe on your free speech.

Banning speech is never right, bad ideas are sterilized in the light of day, not the dark, period.

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Has Justin Trudeau Finally Eaten Too Many Tide Pods?

by freemindfade in

curious what the canadian take is on all this .

i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?

that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.

freemindfade

You bring up the need to curtail their free speech/free movement/civil rights in different ways;

Cathy (jacobi) I am not saying that AT ALL, and I would never say curtail anyone's free speech ever. If you pay attention I am extremely pro-free speech even if its offensive. I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of wacky religion, I am not for making stupid political moves based on emotive leftists posturing. When and where did I ever say we should limit someones freedom of speech????? I have no clue where in the world you pulled that from but I did not and would not suggest that at all.

Anytime free speech is attacked whether the source is left wing or right, it leads inevitably to the slaughter of people and disaster. I would never condone that. And the fact you pulled that out of the air shows how you have zero grasps on this entire conversation, just trying to reinforce some idea of your own, that no one was talking about in the first place!

You are still avoiding what everyone is talking about, ISIS fighters returning to Canada with open arms, fortunately, there are no radical "right wing" countries others you are trying to equate have shipped off to, to fight start a caliphate and wage war on western values, sorry Jacobi, you are misdirecting over and over.

It's not a terrorism scorecard, it's about bad policy

You are coocoo my friend