If we focus on mass shootings as a means of understanding how to reduce the number of people killed by guns in America, we’re likely to implement laws that don’t do what we want them to do — and miss opportunities to make changes that really work. Gun violence isn’t one problem, it’s many. And it probably won’t have a single solution, either...
freemindfade
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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freemindfade
So you need data to back something that is so easy to contemplate and rationally understand..
I like basing my opinions on facts, you should give it a shot.
Hint = put the drugs down, stop cruising pro gun sites with all of its biased up information and rationalize what your thinking and saying.
Drugs are so cool. like guns! I already showed you, Los Angeles Times and the DOJ crime statistics are not progun sites unless I missed something, you can keep saying the same lies over and over and over it won't make them true.
You can do your own thinking now , your not in a mind controlling cult anymore.
Thanks
Just to reiterate ... why did the Vegas shooter choose his AR-15 with a Bumpstock attached than the other guns he owned ?
No idea, and neither you or anyone else knows. Intellectual honesty. I can tell you that AR's are relatively cheap, lightweight. Although for the amount of money he spent on all those 47 guns and BS. he could have probably actually bought a couple of fully automatic machine guns. He could have been more dangerous. But most importantly once again class....
The human desire to kill is far more deadly than any weapon
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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freemindfade
This is the type of thing nonthinkers like fink fail to understand during their virtue signaling
If we focus on mass shootings as a means of understanding how to reduce the number of people killed by guns in America, we’re likely to implement laws that don’t do what we want them to do — and miss opportunities to make changes that really work. Gun violence isn’t one problem, it’s many. And it probably won’t have a single solution, either.
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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freemindfade
I'm more concerned about facts based in reality, maybe you should too.
You've have time and time again proved the complete and utter opposite.
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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The statistics aren't his opinion brainiac, still just cold hard facts no matter how much you throw a fit about it.
This idiot probably thinks like you that taking assault rifles out the possession of the population isn't going to lower the carnage by individualized massacres.
I would never say something so absolute, let me ask you, do you have data to back that up? that taking assault rifles out of the pop will lower carnage? No, you don't because there isn't any. If anything there is more to the contrary that it's inconclusive. FACT: Gun crime was already declining BEFORE the last AWB, it declined DURING, and AFTER it ended and people bought millions of these scary looking things. Amazing how logic works isn't it?
This guys opinion is pretty sound, he is implying halfwits like yourself who squeal "MUH GUN CONTROL" don't help to change anything, you don't add anything meaningful, just gridlock discussion so you can virtue flag. This guy was even denouncing the NRA but you probably didn't actually read it did you.
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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You guys are pulling information from web sites financially connected to the NRA and gun owner stores and you dont realize your getting twisted and corruptly biased facts
Ok jackass, here is one from the LA Times, not NRA but leftists propaganda rag. Better?
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-winkler-folly-of-assault-weapon-ban-20151211-story.html
Little wonder then that a 2004 study commissioned by the Department of Justice found that the federal ban didn't lead to any decrease in gun crime or gun deaths. For starters, rifles, assault or otherwise, are rarely used in gun crime. Notwithstanding the two rifles used in San Bernardino (and a few other memorable mass killings), rifles account for only about 3% of criminal gun deaths. Gun crime in the United States, including most mass shootings, is overwhelmingly handgun crime.
There are approaches to gun control, such as universal background checks and cracking down on rogue gun dealers, that can reduce the daily death toll from guns. It may seem like a victory for the forces of good to ban assault weapons, but such laws aren't the answer. Assault weapon bans are bad policy and bad politics.
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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freemindfade
suicides too.
Suicides for sure, most gun deaths are suicides, no denying that whatsoever.
What potentially has a higher uselessness in killing people ? a single knife or a rapid fire semi-automatic assault rifles
The question is pointless. I don't think this kid would have been satisfied with a knife. He is a mass murderer. He likely would have found another way or! Got a gun ILLEGALLY, yes people, that can happen, most the murders in a blood-soaked high gun control place like Chicago are committed with illegal guns owned by gang members and other criminals who would never buy one legally in the first place. Thats reality, not fantasy land of "which is worse, knife or gun" that's ridiculous oversimplification.
Lets talk Paddock again, the vegas shooter, he had an insane arsenal, 47 guns in his room. he shot something like 1100 rounds, wounding scores of people, and killing 58, it was insane over the top display of firepower, but, 1 bus in France kills 86 people...
The human desire to kill is far more deadly than any weapon
You guys are pulling information from web sites financially connected to the NRA and gun owner stores and you dont realize your getting twisted and corruptly biased facts
Whatever you got to tell yourself, murder rates and gun statistics are not made up. Facts are facts.
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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freemindfade
Americans own around 15 million AR-15-style rifles. These guns are almost never used to commit violent crimes. According to the FBI, rifles of all kinds accounted for just 3 percent of firearm homicides in 2016, while handguns accounted for 65 percent. Contrary to what you may have heard, handguns are also by far the most common choice for mass shooters. A Mother Jones review of mass shootings from 1982 through 2012 found that 66 percent of the weapons were handguns, while just 14 percent would qualify as "assault weapons" under the definition used in a 2013 bill sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein.
The fact that the perpetrators of the deadliest mass shootings tend to favor "assault weapons" does not mean that choice makes the attacks deadlier than they otherwise would be. I know you like to say that like you somehow magically know, but you don't.
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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Now what other gun was used in most of the other recent attacks ?
A terrorist in france killed more people with a vehicle than the Vegas shooter and the Parkland shooter combined btw
58 + 17 = 75 < 86
The thing that makes an AR15 so significantly different from another rifle, is cosmetic. Look at the previous AWB we had in this country. It did nothing. It was pointless, and it banned pointless things. The 1994 assault weapons law banned semi-automatic rifles only if they had any two of the following five features in addition to a
- detachable magazine:
- a collapsible stock,
- a pistol grip,
- a bayonet mount
- a flash suppressor,
- or a grenade launcher.
once again
too many people refuse to acknowledge: the human desire to kill is far more deadly than any weapon.
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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Yes big f..ing deal Einstein
Now what other gun was used in most of the other recent attacks ?
I think we've got some trolling Forest Gumps here.
Just curious but is this picture of one of you guys ?Too many facts for you fink?
Too much logic?