They'd never make this book today, it tells on them way too much. With all the access we have to independent research, if they put such specific criticisms in a publication now it would open flood gates of TTATT.
freemindfade
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The Bible: gods word or mans
by freemindfade inso i was laying on my bed and i saw on a box a little orange hard cover book.
the bible gods word or man's.
it has my name in it and the release date when i got it at a convention when i was 10 (1989).
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Ever Think About This One? Another Bible Contradiction
by freemindfade in8you must not make for yourself a carved image+ or a form* like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.-deuteronomy 5:8. .
18 you are to make two cherubs of gold; you will make them of hammered work on the two ends of the cover.+ 19 make the cherubs on the two ends, one cherub on each end of the cover.
20 the cherubs are to spread out their two wings upward, overshadowing the cover with their wings,+ and they will face each other.
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Is that how it is treated though? Even today? How many people bow down to a cross?
What about moses and the copper snake? Which was later torn down when they were once again purging pagan worship?
And maybe they weren't bowing down to the ark, but was it not an item of worship???
8 Then Jehovah said to Moses: “Make a replica of a poisonous* snake and put it on a pole. Then when anyone has been bitten, he will have to look at it in order to keep alive.”9 Moses at once made a serpent of copper and put it on the pole, and whenever a serpent had bitten a man and he looked at the copper serpent, he survived
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4 He was the one who removed the high places,+ smashed the sacred pillars, and cut down the sacred pole. He also crushed the copper serpent that Moses had made;+ for down to that time the people of Israel had been making sacrificial smoke to it and it used to be called the copper serpent-idol.
Its an interesting thing when we talk about context or even interpretation. Our minds adapt to make the reality that exists in our mind (ie; blue dress, white dress). Reality is pieced together in our mind. Colors don't exist except how our brains interpret light reflecting off our world around us and the colors are plugged in, in our mind to make what we see as reality. There are many more examples with speech, hearing, site, and so on that our mind bridges gaps and adapts to give us our reality.
When I read Duet 5:8, 9... I see it saying don't make a carved image *period*. also don't bow down to one. Another person will see them run together. Don't make a carved image to bow down too.
A super intelligent God, would never give us the dribble of the bible that needs to be interpreted and so easily misunderstood because he would know how our minds constantly fill in gaps to give us a reality our mind is already looking for. He would have to know how we work and understand that if you give the world a bible you are going to have millions (hyperbole) different denominations.
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Ever Think About This One? Another Bible Contradiction
by freemindfade in8you must not make for yourself a carved image+ or a form* like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.-deuteronomy 5:8. .
18 you are to make two cherubs of gold; you will make them of hammered work on the two ends of the cover.+ 19 make the cherubs on the two ends, one cherub on each end of the cover.
20 the cherubs are to spread out their two wings upward, overshadowing the cover with their wings,+ and they will face each other.
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8“‘You must not make for yourself a carved image+ or a form* like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.-Deuteronomy 5:8
18 You are to make two cherubs of gold; you will make them of hammered work on the two ends of the cover.+ 19 Make the cherubs on the two ends, one cherub on each end of the cover. 20 The cherubs are to spread out their two wings upward, overshadowing the cover with their wings,+ and they will face each other. The faces of the cherubs will be turned toward the cover. -Exodus 25:18-20
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Attitudes of WT Society Leaders Towards " Rights " of Child Abuse Victims and Elders
by flipper inthese excerpts i'm sharing with you are from the july 1st, 1989 letter from the wt society to the elders and it gives outsiders a good idea of the attitude of the wt society leaders towards child abuse victims and even towards their own appointed elders.
and it shows wt society is first, foremost, and mainly concerned about financial fallout from potential lawsuits.
one short quote was used from this letter on the abc news nightline report about candace conti - but what i'm going to share with you will be other excerpts from that same letter that are just as, or even more revealing.
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freemindfade
putting myself in my cult indoctrinated families shoes, I know how their warped minds work. If anyone sued gods organization, even if they were harmed, well thats just wrong, they must be opposers.
It's disgusting, but in the mind of most R&F they feel this demonstrates that person now doesn't believe its god's true organization if they would sue it... that means they are an apostate... that means they are worse than the person who molested them...
sickening
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POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?
by minimus ini was just invited.
i thanked my old elder friend and he left.
(i'm not going).
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Hasta la Vista,.. I'm outta here
by insidetheKH inthe time has come to leave this forum.
this is my last post.
mission completed.
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freemindfade
Not sure if you are a full in witnesses or not guy, but let me just say this, if you believe in the desert god JEHOVAH!!!!! and you were hanging out on this site... pretty sure the big guy is gonna smite you like so many ancient Israelites who accidentally touched the ark, or looked at the ark, or did something else silly, maybe they were presumptuous who knows. The point is just by being here wether you agree or not, you are one of us now
Pray to the great desert God YHWH or Jehovah or El... whoever he is today, that he will make your smiting quick and painless and not strike you with hemorrhoids first like the poor philistines!
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I'm a father first!
by FatherFirst inhi guys, this is my first post; i thought i should introduce myself.
i was raised and spent most of my life a jw before i was disassociated, because i refused to stop seeing a non witness girl.
i must say their decision to cut me off from my family and friends although initially traumatic ended up being the biggest blessing in disguise of my life.
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freemindfade
Awesome post! I especially am on board with you with this statement:
It allowed me to shed the indoctrinated fear of looking at both sides of the argument. After doing my own extensive research I was able to eventually wake up to the inconsistencies, misleadings, misquotations, undue influence, even my own ingrained judging attitude towards anyone who wasn't involved with the organization of my birth, whose policies are alone responsible for destroying families (not the shunned ones personal decisions in life) which we all are entitled to.
I am still a witness, but because I eve expressed a desire to be able to question the organization my entire family has taken it upon themselves to disassociate me. But its so hard to explain to anyone "in" how sad, judgmental and miserable they are in the cult. They think they are on top of the world and you really aren't youre in a prison.
Welcome
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The desert god is a real A hole in this weeks bible reading
by _Morpheus inso this week dubbies read that the mean bad philistines were punished by the desert god for having his ark.
the desert god punished them with (drum roll please)....... hemroids and rats.
yep.
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Viviane
lol love the onion news thank you!
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The desert god is a real A hole in this weeks bible reading
by _Morpheus inso this week dubbies read that the mean bad philistines were punished by the desert god for having his ark.
the desert god punished them with (drum roll please)....... hemroids and rats.
yep.
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freemindfade
Just like the benevolent loving father figure everyone wants to believe he is. *puke* Stories like this from the Bible and the Koran create dangerous ideas and thinking in people. Worshipping someone who would have asshole actions entitles you as a listen, obey and be blessed type to be the same way... or better as voltaire said it:
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
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Please help me figure out my dreams
by Socrateswannabe inhi everyone, this may be the stupidest post ever.
i am stumped for an answer and would love to hear your opinions, though.
every week or two for the last couple of years, i have a dream--or at least that's what i'm calling it--that consists of me waking up or thinking that i've waked up, and seeing the ceiling of my darkened bedroom filled with algebraic equations.
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freemindfade
There is a book called 3rd circle theory. A good self reflective look at pursuing passion.
