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  If The Witnesses Try To Get You Back To Jehovah...How Will You Respond!

  by minimus in

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  i am most curious.

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  freemindfade

  Not sure who this Jehovah is, but I left the idea of believing in the fictional storm god YHWH.
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  It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step

  by poopie in

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  i'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.

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  freemindfade

  It's an interesting thought.

  1. They have been using it to keep the thing together for decades
  2. So many have been affected by it it's hard to imagine them having to reverse that. Probably be a bigger woopsie than the generation thing.
  3. but on the other hand, with Islam and others being more exposed for the same practice, it may put pressure on them and it may have legal implications

  Like recently I have been thinking. You aren't considered an adult until 18 (in america). I was baptized at 15 and considered old in my area. But still I couldn't get married Etc that young and not be criticized. How can you make an equally critical decision before being an adult that could potentially destroy your life later when you become more mature and change your mind
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  Return to Jehovah… No Return Address

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  return to jehovah... no return address .

  today i read a small piece of poetic irony.

  im not going to advertise from what web forum i read this, but it was so astounding i had to share it somewhere.

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  freemindfade

  They want people to return because there are probably legal changes in the secular judicial system coming that will put these practices in a legal forum and they are already overburdened within child abuse. If all df'd shunned ones had legal recourse. Oh my.
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  Nature of the Word "Spiritual" Amongst Witnesses

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even as an atheist i consider myself spiritual, always have, metaphysics and spiritual discussions about enlightenment and so on i find interesting, even if belief in a yhwh is not in me.

  i want to propose this simple definition of the word "spiritual" among jehovah's witnesses.. spiritual = indoctrination or indoctrinated.

  i have been told how i'm "just not a spiritual man".

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  freemindfade

  When I was doing fairly well in most aspects, I remember someone telling me the new reason that I wasn't being used was I didn't "comment enough". If it wasn't getting over the monthly average it was that (mind you I was working full time and supporting a pioneer wife).

  I was told this is how you show your faith, by commenting. In other words if you don't show it no one will believe it. So what if you are faking it? whats the difference? Needing proof shows how their idea of spirituality is based on external factors of what others think, not internally whats really happening with you. In other words you could do nothing and be really spiritual, or you could be a fake and pioneer and make every comment.
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  Nature of the Word "Spiritual" Amongst Witnesses

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even as an atheist i consider myself spiritual, always have, metaphysics and spiritual discussions about enlightenment and so on i find interesting, even if belief in a yhwh is not in me.

  i want to propose this simple definition of the word "spiritual" among jehovah's witnesses.. spiritual = indoctrination or indoctrinated.

  i have been told how i'm "just not a spiritual man".

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  freemindfade

  We could all write volumes I am sure on their skewed idea of "spirituality". That's why I was trying to encompass all this in a simple

  Spirituality = How well you demonstrate you're indoctrination.

  Love the discussion and seeing everyones ideas, and I would love to hear more.
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  Nature of the Word "Spiritual" Amongst Witnesses

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even as an atheist i consider myself spiritual, always have, metaphysics and spiritual discussions about enlightenment and so on i find interesting, even if belief in a yhwh is not in me.

  i want to propose this simple definition of the word "spiritual" among jehovah's witnesses.. spiritual = indoctrination or indoctrinated.

  i have been told how i'm "just not a spiritual man".

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  freemindfade

  Even as an atheist I consider myself spiritual, always have, metaphysics and spiritual discussions about enlightenment and so on I find interesting, even if belief in a YHWH is not in me. I want to propose this simple definition of the word "spiritual" among Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Spiritual = Indoctrination or Indoctrinated

  I have been told how I'm "just not a spiritual man". As I am sure many others have been accused of. Or phrases like"spiritual matters". Many uneducated (both secularly and theologically) witnesses feel they are spiritual beacons of understanding, when really they know nothing more, or in most cases much less than your average "apostate".

  Unknowingly to most dubs, "Spirituality" in the context of witnesses amounts to:

  1. How well you follow the Watchtowers rules
  2. How blindly you embrace their dogma and their doctrine
  3. And how far you will go to demonstrate the above two points

  Simply put that is all. It is no great search for enlightenment, or even coming to understand "God". Or in concerns about a spiritual realm.
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  If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?

  by Esse quam videri in

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  what would be your answer?

  are you are a righteous person?

  on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.

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  freemindfade

  I'd say Im a level ten righteous guy, then smack the nearest lady on the @$$, take a sip of scotch, and go find a cigar
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  BBC debate on Apostasy within Islam - the parallels are striking!

  by nicolaou in

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  do british muslims have a problem with apostasy?.

  not sure if the link above will auto embed as i'm posting from my tablet, if not just click through.. i think this format is useless for any meaningful or constructive debate.

  it's almost designed to get sunday morning viewers sputtering over their coffee but still .

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  freemindfade

  Very good! thank you, going to be sharing this with some people.
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  If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what would be your answer?

  are you are a righteous person?

  on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.

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  freemindfade

  Tough question, at one time eating pork and shellfish was immoral or unrighteous according to the desert god YHWH. I love those things! So on a scale of 1-10? Who's scale? I think it would need to be broken down like this:

  Kindess: 10

  behavior with women 3

  and so on lol

  Righteousness is linked to morality no? it used to be righteous to have slaves but not eat shellfish in the OT. The only things that I would consider unrighteous would be those things that harm others or society. Murder, theft, and so on.
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  My father is a f*****g a*****e

  by Butyoucanneverleave in

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  this is my first post.

  i just had to get that statement off of my chest!

  my father is one cold hearted judge mental, hypocritical, piece of s**t. i hate this religion and what it has done to my family!

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  freemindfade

  Welcome. Know you are not alone. Your feelings are valid and a product of what this cult does.