Posts by freemindfade

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what reaction have you received when you said 'that .org site is nothing more than tv evangelism' to a jw ?

by sowhatnow in

did they get it?

.

do they also not see that they are building 'temples'?

freemindfade

Things did not go well... with every witness there is a cognitive dissonance threshold. Depending on how they view you, they may speak freely about things that bother them, if you cross the threshold they will bury you in their CD. They will never speak a whisper of anything critical to you again. What I am getting at is this:

If they still trust you, and your approach is gentle enough, they may tell you how it really makes them feel (I have feeling way more witnesses are uncomfortable with this than they show)

If they think you've crossed the line, they are gonna tell you that you are crazy and its the best thing since Jesus effing Christ. So to find out their true feelings you need to be careful what, and how you say it. If they catch a whiff of "apostasy" or TTATT, your locked out. FMF

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Newton versus Watchtower quackery

by opusdei1972 in

the following is a watchtower's criticism against newton:.

down through the ages, talented scientists have indeed made surprising breakthroughs in their search for answers to puzzling questions about nature.

some, however, have also made serious errors in the process.

freemindfade

Love their double standard, others make errors, witnesses make new-light... out their @$$hole!

At least what Newton did could be built off of in the ever questioning and improving science, unlike religion that says today "NOW we know EVERYTHING... then tomorrow oops, NOW we know EVERYTHING... shucks missed again, engage new light, oh and we weren't wrong just refining the TROOF."

morons

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JW.ORG on Everything

by anonread in

why do they have jw.org on all their social medai like instagram.

were they told to do that?

also wtf is up with all their accounts being private??

freemindfade

I think it's so distasteful. But I have been outright told people in my family feel like I left th truth ages ago because I don't post pics on social media at the conventions, showing off new releases, etc. They thought I stopped going to meetings and conventions. How insane is that???? I have never posted that crap even when I was being a good R&F.

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so this guy went into a bar------

by stan livedeath in

so this fella went into a pub and said to another guy sat at the bar: "i think jehovah's witnesses are all assholes!

" to which the guy sat at the bar replied: "i resent that remark.

" so the fella said "oh, i'm sorry, i didn't realise that you were a jehovah's witness".

freemindfade

hahahahaha, thank you for that!

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Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

by freemindfade in

i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

freemindfade

Yep NewYork44M from a business perspective you don't talk like that then back it up with vague numbers and a fake graph going up. As a professional that part of is so insulting. You want to talk frank about finances and fiscal things, then do it! They did anything but.

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May tv broadcast

by New day in

somebody on another thread suggested that those still in could express their opinions on steven lett's performance.

i am still in and i was shocked, dismayed and saddened by it.

i became a witness over 30 yrs ago and the issue of donations was a non-issue for so many years.. now, it is a huge one for the org.

freemindfade

That might be a shocking song form the contribution box lol...

"You know you want to.. just stick it in my mouth..."

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Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

by freemindfade in

i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

freemindfade

As with many of you, I have the same elephant in the room with my wife where we don't engage in speaking about these things, even though these last 6 months I don't say anything, if she catches me watching the broadcast I might as well be watching pornography lol "why are you watching that!!!" Obviously its a combination of her thinking how this nonsense will look to me, and maybe how it actually makes her uncomfortable, anyone that can watch those videos at the end and not say "wtf" deep down inside even underneath the CogDis, is mentally ill.

I can see it playing out this way, the GB has trained the RF for years to give what they feel is enough, so a lot say "I don't have anything to give so i don't have to." When the funds don't increase maybe their message will get more and more blunt. They will point the finger more at their stingy followers and accuse them of effing up the work.

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May tv broadcast

by New day in

somebody on another thread suggested that those still in could express their opinions on steven lett's performance.

i am still in and i was shocked, dismayed and saddened by it.

i became a witness over 30 yrs ago and the issue of donations was a non-issue for so many years.. now, it is a huge one for the org.

freemindfade

Oubliette

the message is stranger than that it goes like this:

Don't get edumacated
Don't work and make money
Send us your money...

WTF???

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Are Jehovah`s Witnesses a CULT?

by Driving Force in

steven hassen is a well known name for many, if you do not know him google can help.

this information is certainly not new, but as almost every exjw has deep affection and concern for active jws it is certainly my wish and i hope the wish of other exjws that any active jw considers this information.

this information cannot be deemed as apostate, it is just stating the opinion of someone who has spent much of his adult life in helping people to realize what a cult is.

freemindfade

Phizzy I agree, cult has almost become a derogatory inflammatory insult that doesn't carry its true definition with witnesses. And dangerous cult is more of true designation for them than just cult really. I like "coercive persuasive group" "High control" "Undue Influence"... etc. the great thing about those is you can use them for religions, countries like North korea and other groups.

But yes.. they are a cult lol

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Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

by freemindfade in

i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

freemindfade

done4good

I have noticed much less gushing and cheering over the new video's and songs. Because of CD I think everyone is just keeping their mouth shut and probably feeling like they are the only ones uncomfortable with it. In fact I imagine many will stop watching these broadcasts because they make them uncomfortable. Its funny too that ones who haven't watched when presented with say one of the music videos, think its apostates making fun of the org, but when they find out it its not they look like morons and now have to say how great it is. Very sad