freemindfade
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JW Who Joined the Church of Satan, Allister Crowley, Anton Lefve's movement after leaving JW? Why, why mess with Darkness?
by PhilsWager2 inthis is going to trip you out, after talking with a jw friend who left the org and has great rage against god he's turning to satan.
he lives with his jw brother and decided host gathering for people interesting in worshiping the devil.
how will this outcome work with holy people claiming to be jws seeing some guys and girls dressed in dark robes?
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freemindfade
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At the RC now part 2
by All for show inok... my other thread i cant respond.
we went to shut up our family... but myhusband is seething and said his brain has shut off.. the stupid is amazing.. they are playing videos that are lame and pointless for the first symposium.. for the first symposium... they asked why the bible has no pictures.
because it was before photography...jesus used word pictures!!
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freemindfade
No pictures... it has no pictures because some of the appalling bible stories would be even more disturbing if you had to look at it in pictures... seriously just think about it
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What triggered your doubts / awakening?
by Tornintwo ini am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?
for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.
...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!
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freemindfade
Sorry I thought of one more thing in my evolition out. One turning point was seriously asking myself the following "if I wasn't born in, and witnesses came to my door today, would I even give them the time of day?" The answer was no f%&@ing way! once I got the balls to be honest about that, I realized what am I doing in it then If I would have otherwise just been an athiest? -
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More Young Indoctrination
by freemindfade innot sure how wide spread this is, but from my social media land i saw 2 separate videos, from two halls in completely different towns featuring their kids having a demonstration on the service meeting (i am guessing last night as i didn't go).
these kids are really young!
maybe this was just a coincidence at first i thought it was the same video then realized theses people live hundreds of miles apart.
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freemindfade
Wow, that video is great!!! Teaching kids how to experience GUILT of Cult $hit.
With the animating of the kids they over use expressions of shame, sorrow, guilt,
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What triggered your doubts / awakening?
by Tornintwo ini am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?
for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.
...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!
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JWs and their views on Sex
by campaign of hate inin the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.
i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.
they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.
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JWs and their views on Sex
by campaign of hate inin the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.
i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.
they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.
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freemindfade
Sofia Lose, what hardtobeme is mentioning is the type of thing that subtly messes your mind up. JW's live in a impossible world of the idea of sexual purity that just can't and doesn't really exist. Witness think the world is sex obsessed, in one regard they are as that is what people want and it sells as they say, beyond that, witnesses are WAYYY more obsessed "don't look at this, "don't touch that", "don't think about that" "get married or no sex for you" They talk about it at the meeting to no end! Pornography is mentioned in every part, or homosexuality, or adultery. They ARE obsessed.
And marriage is another institution like religion, its f%$@ed up, and by that I am not saying that monogamy is = to marriage, you can have one without the other, but it exists as a system of consequences and control. Their overall attitude towards sex stunts people. You cannot really know yourself waiting, then marrying someone you've never screwed, especially when you are so young, you don't know what's going on yet.
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More Young Indoctrination
by freemindfade innot sure how wide spread this is, but from my social media land i saw 2 separate videos, from two halls in completely different towns featuring their kids having a demonstration on the service meeting (i am guessing last night as i didn't go).
these kids are really young!
maybe this was just a coincidence at first i thought it was the same video then realized theses people live hundreds of miles apart.
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freemindfade
Not sure how wide spread this is, but from my social media land I saw 2 separate videos, from two halls in completely different towns featuring their kids having a demonstration on the Service Meeting (i am guessing last night as I didn't go). These kids are really young! Maybe this was just a coincidence at first I thought it was the same video then realized theses people live hundreds of miles apart. I was < 10 when I joined the school, but still, seems they are really railing now on locking in the born in's as future battery for the jw matrix. -
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JWs and their views on Sex
by campaign of hate inin the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.
i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.
they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.
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freemindfade
you nailed it (no pun intended).
Even in areas where they don't get specific, the overall obsession with SEX=BAD screws your mind up, it sexually stunts people from a regular course of discovery and self knowledge. So you get people who lived unfulfilled (prudish) sex lives, and you have people who crack and go off the deep end.
The WTBTS has convinced that anything other than what you described WILL lead to the following:
- Irreparable heartbreak and guilt that will last your entire life
- Sexually transmitted disease
- Unwanted pregnancy
All those things are implied guaranteed by the "society" if you don't follow the sex rules
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Jehovah's Witnesses---From Walking Tall To Living In Shame
by minimus ini remember the days when jws were proud of their religion, they walked tall and carried their big stick, their bibles, proudly.
now, it's embarrassing for a witness to admit their faith to others.
the average witness can't explain their beliefs, as they have changed so many times.
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freemindfade
Good post, for what its worth i see it another way
People love to show off the shinny blue logo, and bells and whistles, bright colors, tv stations etc. They are so excited.
No one wants to show off doctrine anymore because 1. nobody else actually cares in an increasingly rational society 2. no R&F know what the hell it is anymore.
relatively over night it became a religion with all kinds of secret knowledge that controlled its members, to a religion with the same info as everyone else... that controls its members, but in a pretty package.
I do believe that some people don't watch the programing, or different things because it is embarrassing and they just refer to it like someone who thumps the bible but never reads it.