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  A checklist for Lurking JW's.

  by cappytan in

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  dear lurking jw's:.

  if you were in a cult, how would you know?

  cults don't call themselves cults.

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  Good read, my comment to lurkers is that even when i decided to leave this organization I still would have held that its wasn't a cult, because I didn't really understand was a dangerous cult really was, i changed that tune very much. Do the research, take the time. Many intelligent people can find themselves in these groups, and the witnesses are one of many that use the same tactics to a T.

  1. Read About what makes a cult a cult
  2. Really seriously and rationally compare the witnesses to this
  3. Research other groups (scientology etc) that use the exact same model
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  It Is Official, Just as Predicted on this Site... Local Cong Donates all Monies on Deposit with You Know Who!

  by RichardHaley in

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  2. experiences

  my local cong just donated all money (4k +) on deposit with you know who to, you know who.

  "since the society forgave all kingdom hall loans the boe felt it only appropriate to forgive the society of our loan to them.

  " is exactly how it was presented to the r&f.

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  Wow
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  JW Who Joined the Church of Satan, Allister Crowley, Anton Lefve's movement after leaving JW? Why, why mess with Darkness?

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to trip you out, after talking with a jw friend who left the org and has great rage against god he's turning to satan.

  he lives with his jw brother and decided host gathering for people interesting in worshiping the devil.

  how will this outcome work with holy people claiming to be jws seeing some guys and girls dressed in dark robes?

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  freemindfade

  Protarded is right. It's most likey a phase born out of anger.
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  At the RC now part 2

  by All for show in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok... my other thread i cant respond.

  we went to shut up our family... but myhusband is seething and said his brain has shut off.. the stupid is amazing.. they are playing videos that are lame and pointless for the first symposium.. for the first symposium... they asked why the bible has no pictures.

  because it was before photography...jesus used word pictures!!

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  No pictures... it has no pictures because some of the appalling bible stories would be even more disturbing if you had to look at it in pictures... seriously just think about it

  
  
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  What triggered your doubts / awakening?

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

  for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

  ...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

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  Sorry I thought of one more thing in my evolition out. One turning point was seriously asking myself the following "if I wasn't born in, and witnesses came to my door today, would I even give them the time of day?" The answer was no f%&@ing way! once I got the balls to be honest about that, I realized what am I doing in it then If I would have otherwise just been an athiest?
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  More Young Indoctrination

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure how wide spread this is, but from my social media land i saw 2 separate videos, from two halls in completely different towns featuring their kids having a demonstration on the service meeting (i am guessing last night as i didn't go).

  these kids are really young!

  maybe this was just a coincidence at first i thought it was the same video then realized theses people live hundreds of miles apart.

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  Wow, that video is great!!! Teaching kids how to experience GUILT of Cult $hit.

  With the animating of the kids they over use expressions of shame, sorrow, guilt,
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  What triggered your doubts / awakening?

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

  for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

  ...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

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  The Bible... never been able to stomach it.
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  JWs and their views on Sex

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.

  i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.

  they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtfeLnrJyTk
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  JWs and their views on Sex

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.

  i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.

  they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.

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  freemindfade

  Sofia Lose, what hardtobeme is mentioning is the type of thing that subtly messes your mind up. JW's live in a impossible world of the idea of sexual purity that just can't and doesn't really exist. Witness think the world is sex obsessed, in one regard they are as that is what people want and it sells as they say, beyond that, witnesses are WAYYY more obsessed "don't look at this, "don't touch that", "don't think about that" "get married or no sex for you" They talk about it at the meeting to no end! Pornography is mentioned in every part, or homosexuality, or adultery. They ARE obsessed.

  And marriage is another institution like religion, its f%$@ed up, and by that I am not saying that monogamy is = to marriage, you can have one without the other, but it exists as a system of consequences and control. Their overall attitude towards sex stunts people. You cannot really know yourself waiting, then marrying someone you've never screwed, especially when you are so young, you don't know what's going on yet.
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  More Young Indoctrination

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure how wide spread this is, but from my social media land i saw 2 separate videos, from two halls in completely different towns featuring their kids having a demonstration on the service meeting (i am guessing last night as i didn't go).

  these kids are really young!

  maybe this was just a coincidence at first i thought it was the same video then realized theses people live hundreds of miles apart.

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  freemindfade

  Not sure how wide spread this is, but from my social media land I saw 2 separate videos, from two halls in completely different towns featuring their kids having a demonstration on the Service Meeting (i am guessing last night as I didn't go). These kids are really young! Maybe this was just a coincidence at first I thought it was the same video then realized theses people live hundreds of miles apart. I was < 10 when I joined the school, but still, seems they are really railing now on locking in the born in's as future battery for the jw matrix.