hi i am delighted to be apart of the community.. having left the witnesses one of my first challenges was my believe in god.
naturally.. i have concluded that i am alive and conscious.
now my intuition tells me god exists, but my analytical thinking tells me god does not exist.
When you embrace the facts and live accordingly it's awesome.
Good not god.
Just settle in the what we know so far about our natural world and what we keep learning. When we credit the unknown with "God" we are putting blinders on. Embrace the unknown about our world and ourselves and start really learning about who and what we are and be excited the more we replace "god" with real understanding.
just before the morning adjournment in the australian proceedings the judge played an absolute blinder.. he asked the elder as in deuteronomy would the jehovah's witnesses stone a woman for committing adultery?!
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Two witness rule yes
Stoning no
So simple and yet I never thought of that one. Again I'm so impressed with the sharpness of these guys on the jw thing.
why would you proceed to invite me to their meetings?
wtf?
how much clearer can i make my stance????
I got another one that wants a half our visit. Oy...
Check on things. Some of these elders could be great guys if they didn't have to pretend to give a shit about "spirituality"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208151609.htm.
jeffrey rose, an archaeologist and researcher with the university of birmingham in the u.k., says that the area in and around this "persian gulf oasis" may have been host to humans for over 100,000 years before it was swallowed up by the indian ocean around 8,000 years ago.
rose's hypothesis introduces a "new and substantial cast of characters" to the human history of the near east, and suggests that humans may have established permanent settlements in the region thousands of years before current migration models suppose.. .
i just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
It's only my opinion. But I think we will see a new generation of exjw "apostate".
I think maybe the older ones. Were most fearless and they found informaton and acted in times when information wasn't as readily available.
Then there are those in their 30's like me and some other I know. We came into the information age. And weren't born in. I feel we are awake and pissed. Often stuck. Embedded by spouse and family and already our youth sacrafice to this shit.
Then this young group. Very decisive about living honestly. Raised in the info age. Maybe the least vitriol of the three demographics. Still young different atmosphere different experience. I hope all the you people snap out of it and wake up before they get embedded in decades of family and friends.
None of this is fact just gut feelings of mine. We all share similarities no matter how old or young. But we all also have different generational aspects on this cult.
i just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
like the title says....those of you who made it out with you husbands or wives.
you people are so lucky!!!.
lucky because your wife or husband isn't brain dead and can think and reason for themselves.
Same situation here. I think it falls into this same thing "if there was something horribly wrong with this religion would you want to know? and if you were told could you even tell"? as of right now I think my wife would not want to know. no matter what. So I feel for you. Read this, and also watch the young couple in the videos I posted in another recent thread. Although I do feel they are lucky, it gives me some happiness to see the ones that weren't alone.
i have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
Correction. They start as atheist vs theist. The theist is quickly devoured and the atheists and agnostics turn on one another in a philosophical debate about debating and words that by their very nature a varied and founded in a theological world.
The problem is the word GOD. As soon as it is used, a huge leap is made, this is undeniable. Atheist say they don't know and don't believe because historically the role filled by "God" known or unknown, has been explained away through knowledge, and this is likely to continue on. The that word in of itself if inflammatory and should have no place. If you don't say god no one has to say atheist.
i have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
_Morpheus I went to the store and bam. Look what happened. Viv and cofty came full in to save us lol
What page are we up to now? I saw something about unicorns. What did I miss lol
i have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
