Posts by freemindfade

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

lol

Always found the crosshair pics peculiar, but probably a product of over exposure.

The "c" on the rock really has no explanation, although it could just be random and not man made.

There is an interesting Apollo 17 photo that shows a still packaged moon rover, and tracks, this is kinda odd.

also the black and white feed, would they not have recorded color film (maybe not for the live feed, but for the record?)

There are more people who get crazy over shadows and lighting, but i have no clue about this madness, so I'll leave that one alone.

Also there are just too many nazi's and freemasons involved lol!

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

And that's why understanding the science involves shows it would be impossible to actually stage. Also, wouldn't another motive be to do what you said you were going to do?

Very true, the expressed motive and the real one (only in my behind the curtain look at how things work) are not always the same. I feel doing what they said they were gonna do was secondary, and only because it was needed to accomplish the bigger goals. Maybe like this

Motive 1. All the fun stuff, the motive of those facilitating and funding such a thing

Motive 2. The objective, the motive of those carrying it out, and making it possible through concept and execution.

I could refer back to the manhattan project, and the possible different intentions of many people involved.

I think fukitol who had the second post on here made a good point, there is probably a mix of truth and fiction. Some of the pics have some issues. They may have staged some aside from the actual moon landing.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

Also the technological jesus bit I just think that sounds bad ass.

Still you cannot deny the importance of the moon landing. It capped an incredibly... rough decade, not just for america but also the world. Armstrong called it " a giant leap for mankind", honestly it was a giant leap for Merica.

It sent powerful messages that good ol USA had whatever it tool to win the cold war. It was the peak of our progress and merica did it. Not only did america gain a new found pride in America, the world did as well. It was a powerful event if we believe the value history puts on it (I wasn't born yet :) ).

So all that being said the weight and importance it carried, what would you do, sacrifice, hide, or whatever for such a world stage advantage. Thats all I am saying it held incredible value, and people often do crazy shit to insure advantage. But again thats not a rational reason for anything just a great source of motive.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

By the goblet of dionysus I surrender fully. Lol.

I'll do something no one else can seem to do and agree that you are correct. It has nothing to do with rational skepticism. See people was that so hard?

These things are following strong motive so they probably only amount to "gut feeling" ie follow the money (motive). I have lived and dealt in the underworld of nyc and I can tell you there are more real conspiracies going on daily than not. Many things are not the way they seem. But you are correct it's not rational proof of anything.

The part of our brain thay deals in gut feelings, the most ancient part, doesn't use rationality and is often wrong, biased, or prejudice. The more recent outer cortex that's what deals in cold rationality. All that being said I always listen to my primitive inner cortex that ran from Saber tooth tigers, but I use the rational outer bits of the brain to guide my decisions.

I was just talking about existence of motive. :) love ya Viv kiss kiss

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Are Witnesses Allowed to Read Bible by itself

by Brighid in

i've been away from the boards so long that i had to create a new account but recent events have brought me back - i've missed this place!

anyway, i heard a former witness being interviewed the other day that said the witnesses were now being highly discouraged to read the bible by itself (without wt literature) on their own.

this seems over the top even for the witnesses.

freemindfade

Read it alone yes

Think about it no

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Extremely difficult situation the .Org is in

by Lemonp in

as far as i can imagine, the .org is in a lose, lose, lose situation right now.

if jackson shows to the rc, and policy chages, then bible interpretation was changed sans-holy spirit.

policy change is an admission of guilt, not helpful in future civil court cases.

freemindfade

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Crisis of Conscience

by FreeGirl2006 in

do you think that any of the clueless, amnesiacs that appeared before the rc will have a crisis of conscience over the abuse situation?

seriously, with the grilling they received from our new heroes, they would have to be sociopaths not to do some long hard thinking about the lack of empathy and compassion the borg displays as a top down policy towards abuse victims.

i can understand these idiots not having an awakening within the confines of their daily lives since they stay cloistered in their belief system, but the rc forced them into the real world with their questions and one would hope, made them think.

freemindfade

Crisis of Cognitive Dissonance is more like it

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Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead

by Viviane in

recently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.

i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.

first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.

freemindfade

Viviane I will trade you quality thinking (I'll start thinking quality) to be the only person on the board to possess a picture of the elusive rationalist... Viviane. Send it to me and I will think your way

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

I have to say that rebel does have a point about deception though. Even some very brilliant people will say "you believe that a deceptive cover up of (insert magnitude) could really happen?"

The government is not beyond deception, without getting off track on aliens and moon landing, the CIA would rather have had people believe they were seeing UFO's and in fact encouraged such misinformation, than acknowledge the existence of the U2 spy plane. Which did not "exist" until Russia shot one down.

The manhattan project... what was their official cover story for what was going on? I know when they popped the first test they quickly released a bogus story about an ammunitions dump explosion or some madness.

Area 51, without getting into the lavish tales that surround this place, this is a literal physical visible place that the government officially denied existed for a very very long time.

My point is its not that strange to question the potential deceptions of the establishment. Especially when a lot is a stake. The moon landing as I said before was the technological jesus if you will, and also the political implication between Russia and the us as to who got there first cannot be understated.

So while I live my life believing we did it, I will always have skepticism. If it were unequivocally proven to be a hoax i would not be surprised, but also I am not that doubtful its completely possible as well we were on the moon, its not that big of stretch either. I am unlike most, and I feel that the government, and the secret keepers within have always had way more advanced tech than we give them credit for. The germans during WW2 were on the brink of crazy things! and those nazi scientists became NASA. Everyone should do a little reading on Werher von Braun, fascinating history there. (NAZI NASA NAZI NASA lol!)

The germans built a effing cruise missile during WW2, the V1, it was not very good (especially by todays standards) but you can guarantee it scare the sh!t out of people. Not only that it was powered by a pulsejet, amazing advancement in propulsion.

So for the people that think we couldn't have made it because of the technology of civilians, thats a fail. Most tech results from warfare application and a lot of the cool stuff we have started there and there is plenty we still don't even know about. So the tech part I don't buy.

Of course the spike in technology started in 1947 when we found that disk in the desert... lol

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Why I have renounced Atheism and become a believer again

by cantleave in

i have always said that if a god showed itself i would follow the evidence and renounce my atheism.

i have now seen enough to start believing again, i am so happy, i feel a inner contentment, when he connected with me i really knew it was him.

if you are not a believer you will not understand this, but trust me, look at the evidence, open your heart to him, let him in and your life will change for the better.