so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.
we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.
but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.
Witnesses are conditioned to have an answer to everything (even if it's totally wrong) and for everything (even if it's wrong).
They act as if they accepted the universe as the indifferent place it is with infinite unanswered questions, then being alive sucks. That is sad. Choosing a comforting deferred reality instead of being humble and courageous enough to be otherwise.
lostwun here, i joined 2 months ago but am now just finding the courage after doing more research to formally introduce myself to the board and embrace my new beginnings as an ex-jw.
i am a second-generation jw.
i grew up with parents who are well known and very respected in many circuits.
wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).
united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm .
when pornography is mentioned by the wts they mean men, who obviously cant control their sexual desires, so that even a moment is too much.
it's been a while since i've posted, but i've been lurking more and more lately (men never made it to the moon :p).
i recently saw a copy of the august awake magazine entitle cells!
living libraries!
I should be allowed to quote Dawkins now in my home and kingdom hall at will.
in today's wt study it makes the point that just glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and can lead to sex!.
so are jw's now to wear blinkers?.
also jw's are told to go and confess to the elders if they have any immoral thoughts?!!.
well in a month where i had a friend of 20 years tell me "we can't kick it no mo" because i no longer go to meetings, i had an even older friend who is coming to visit me, call me and tell me hes out.. currently a high profile ms who gives talks out all over the place, the elders said they are recommending him for appt to the body in sep when the co is coming through.
but nope......hes about to step down all together.. what did it?
because i am not disfellowshipped, and soft peddle my issues with the org, i was able to speak to him about things like blood, and a couple other things.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
He was the equivalent of a U.S. major, you say he was rank and file???
He was a very intelligent person and didn't think much of Hitler. I think it is safe to say you are just restated my opinion that science and government will get in bed together even though they are operating on the same goal with different motive. I personally have no problem with the guy, he wa a nazi, then he wasn't, now he's dead, and we have been to the moon. Its all good.
in 2002 a former SS officer at Peenemünde told the BBC that von Braun had regularly worn the SS uniform to official meetings. He began as an Untersturmführer (Second lieutenant) and was promoted three times by Himmler, the last time in June 1943 to SS-Sturmbannführer (major).
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Did he even don the uniform?
In the black there behind Heinrich Himmler, so to answer your question: Yes, he did.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
I'm sorry, did someone say Wernher Von Braun was NOT a member of the SS?
I would love to see the source for that bit of info, that is new to me.
i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.
my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.
she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.
