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  Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

  the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

  i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

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  freemindfade

  Just had an epiphany, my large, uber dub family is a cult within a cult.

  So they sustain this thing on two levels. wow..
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
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  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  freemindfade

  _Morpheus, I am still waiting for my high quality recordings that NASA lost, you know the high def color stuff that didn't seem that important so they recorded howdy doody over it
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  Life after the witnesses, friends, faith etc

  by Theburstbubble in

  1. jw
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  hi everyone, this is my first post so go easy on me :) i have been a witness all of my life (i'm 37) and truly believed it until 3 years ago.

  my husband and i had become spiritually weak and over time i began to question more and more until i came to the conclusion that the witnesses were not the true religion but just one of many religions and that if god is there then there are many paths to get to him.

  anyway, i've battled with keeping going as my husband still believed and i didn't want to be in a divided household as we have a young daughter and thought it would be very confusing for her (and us).

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  freemindfade

  Welcome, I have always maintained good relationships in and out of the witnesses gig. Still not so for my pioneer spouse. This makes it very difficult, some of the best friends you can find right now are some well meaning exjw's that will help by listening to you, and empathizing.

  But be cautious, for me I always had "wordy" friends, I fear some who have only known friends in the "truth", they go out and get hurt and feel the witnesses were right. I aways say this:

  There are good people in the org, and bad people in the org, there are good people outside the org, and there are bad people outside. Be cautious, but there are non-witness, non-religious people outside that are absolutely wonderful human beings.
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  They know something’s up.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
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  we have the convention this weekend and many jw families are arriving.

  one family that ive known for many years from new mexico stopped by to visit my mom.

  hes been an elder since the 80s.

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  freemindfade

  Good job
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  Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

  the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

  i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

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  freemindfade

  StrongHaiku & SecretSlaveClass

  you guys are too nice

  I think more and more people are not taking it serious. I can feel it, and some (like my super zealous family) they were like their own congregation. To them JW=family and family=JW. They will stick to the bitter end.

  A lot of others I really believe are uncomfortable, not even by the scandal, but just the radical identity change of the org. This may get them browsing, and learn about the scandal. However in a totalitarian "thing" like this, everyone is scared to death to speak honestly and uncensored, so its impossible to know how many are starting to wake up. But I believe its gonna start picking up. Its just such a slow careful process for most.
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  Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

  the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

  i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

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  freemindfade

  The win-win is what most people want, to be able to freely choose for themselves which direction they want to go and to have the support of their loved ones. They don't allow for that option and therefore losses will occur. If we stayed in and kept playing the fading game we would lose respect for ourselves because of giving in to someone else's wishes for us and we'd be fake like them. If we left, at least we walked away with something.

  this is a great explanation of it.

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  "Is the life you're living worth the price you're paying?"

  I think for a while it was that way I was in a good fading point, but the blow out with the family and the gradual decent has made this less clear, and I need to take that to heart because it makes sense. Its starting to become a deficit, I'm beginning to pay too much, especially mentally and emotionally .
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  Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

  the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

  i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

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  freemindfade

  nmthinker

  Wow, if you need some offline advice PM me. I know what all that is like. I too am begged not leave etc. I may be able to share some things that have helped me.

  
  

  dubstepped

  Thanks for that perspective
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  Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

  the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

  i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

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  freemindfade

  If I was single I would fade, id never DA, but the way things are with me im held in constant limbo
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  Starting to get grilled by parents

  by Anonymous17 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my parents had a meeting with me to talk about me not progressing spiritualy as i should be.

  i felt like i was being interrogated in a nice way.

  they want to know who i talk to and if my association at work good.

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  freemindfade

  Take it from your mobster brother over here, the less info you give the better, yes that drives people nuts, but reassure them in other ways. Get across that finish line to adulthood without blowing your cover.
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  freemindfade

  Sorry but I hate to be the person to point out certain things because it sounds like I support conspiracy,

  But public funding and not public funding are two completely different things. Now to my knowledge NASA gets no off the record funding, but you know who does? Lockeed SkunkWorks. Why are people so naive to think the government wants to honestly show them everything they do? You guys are giving the tin foil hat wearers fuel.

  If there was a strategic purpose for it, the funding would be there, visible or not. The public view of how money moves and works, and why people do certain things is funny. The government is no different than the mob, or wolf of wall street types, everything involving money has a reason.

  So maybe a better reason behind it taking so long to go back is it doesn't benefit anyone now. Who's gonna pay for that?