Posts by freemindfade

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Perfection? Ponder this...

hello all- nice forum.i have been contemplating a fade for a while, and i have been reading various sites such as this one.

i have seen all kinds of things that have made me think.

but something came to mind lately, and i wanted to throw it out there-satan was cast down to the earth, and he is supposedly the cause of all imperfection.

keep your philosophical pondering going! The as you fade, and if you still attend meetings you will begin to see just how silly pretty much every word of the bible is. Its got more holes than a screen door. And welcome

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Petition for U.S. AG investigation.

by freemindfade in

not sure if anything will come of this.

but i signed it.. https://www.change.org/p/united-states-attorney-general-investigate-the-watchtower-society-of-jehovah-s-witnesses-re-child-sexual-abuse?recruiter=363165656&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink.

freemindfade

Thank you everyone.

I hope this gets legs and accomplishes something, if it does how good will it feel to know you contributed? Lets hope!

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Experiences Of Speaking To Another Awake Witness Without Knowing It

by freemindfade in

this is interesting, i would love to hear of some experiences.

i was speaking with someone offline about their talking to someone and coming to find out that person was waking up/awake too.

the reason i find it interesting, is because it is such a fragile situation, a dance where the two people don't trust each other enough to just speak freely like they are afraid of being turned into the kgb.

freemindfade

Me too Vidiot, current and previous people. So many I wonder about

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i feel more confused than ever

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

well i know i've been posting a lot of topics like this lately and i'm sorry if i sound whiny or annoying.

my parents were asking me why i was so upset lately and i ended up just telling them the whole truth.

i told them i don't believe in god or the bible because i don't have any evidence of anything.

freemindfade

Witnesses are tricked unto living a deferred life. Where they will wait until they die and wake up in a lion petting zoo to enjoy life. Many of us wish we could go back and undefer chunks of our life we gave up for a publishing company cult. Control the situation with your folks and work on your own understanding of the religion and the reality outside of it

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Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

by freemindfade in

there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

freemindfade

Uncle flipper! Always with the excellent advice. And you are right. I am already scaling back meetings to a few a month. The problem with that is if I don't go we don't do anything with our jw friends. So I can go do something with "wordly" friends but if I never keep that going it's like the wife has no friends. It's a sad situation that I put on myself for some reason. But still, I am reducing the meeting attendance. It's also hard to see my family that won't speak to me interacting with her on IG like nothing ever happened. Joking etc while I am treated as though I don't exists. That really seems to get to me. To me that makes me feel further and further from her actually. Oh the twisted stupidity of a cult, what can you do. Thank you uncle flipper.

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JWs are not charitable

by BashfulAshG in

hey guys,.

i'm just venting here because obviously, i can vent to no one else because i am still in the congregation.. jws as a whole do nothing to help the poor, the homeless, the sick, the hungry, though some individual jws do.

because they are too busy giving to the gb.

freemindfade

Why don't they? Because it's a cult who warps what charity means.

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i feel more confused than ever

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

well i know i've been posting a lot of topics like this lately and i'm sorry if i sound whiny or annoying.

my parents were asking me why i was so upset lately and i ended up just telling them the whole truth.

i told them i don't believe in god or the bible because i don't have any evidence of anything.

freemindfade

I tell people I have one belief "reality" and only I can be the judge of what that means. Without getting into semantics of God and religions.

Of course here I can my reality says therea no jehovah and jws are a cult. But all they need to know is you vase your beliefs on what you can determine is reality. Discussing details with them will just make them barrage you with thought stopping comments and fear obligation and guilt. Lay low. Be strong

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Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

by freemindfade in

there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

freemindfade

Just had an epiphany, my large, uber dub family is a cult within a cult.

So they sustain this thing on two levels. wow..

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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friends

so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

freemindfade

_Morpheus, I am still waiting for my high quality recordings that NASA lost, you know the high def color stuff that didn't seem that important so they recorded howdy doody over it

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Life after the witnesses, friends, faith etc

by Theburstbubble in

jw
friends

hi everyone, this is my first post so go easy on me :) i have been a witness all of my life (i'm 37) and truly believed it until 3 years ago.

my husband and i had become spiritually weak and over time i began to question more and more until i came to the conclusion that the witnesses were not the true religion but just one of many religions and that if god is there then there are many paths to get to him.

anyway, i've battled with keeping going as my husband still believed and i didn't want to be in a divided household as we have a young daughter and thought it would be very confusing for her (and us).

freemindfade

Welcome, I have always maintained good relationships in and out of the witnesses gig. Still not so for my pioneer spouse. This makes it very difficult, some of the best friends you can find right now are some well meaning exjw's that will help by listening to you, and empathizing.

But be cautious, for me I always had "wordy" friends, I fear some who have only known friends in the "truth", they go out and get hurt and feel the witnesses were right. I aways say this:

There are good people in the org, and bad people in the org, there are good people outside the org, and there are bad people outside. Be cautious, but there are non-witness, non-religious people outside that are absolutely wonderful human beings.