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freemindfade
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"I would rather have Questions that I can't answer, instead of Answers that I can't question"
by stuckinarut2 in.
how very thought provoking this quote is, especially in the context of witness doctrine!.
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I'm not so sure a bigger awakening is going to happen anymore
by bradford inwhen i left in march officially i started reading the forums here.
i had this excitement that more people would be leaving soon because of the crazy broadcasts, the crazy "new light" that the gb was dishing out, and more recently the australian royal commission lighting up geoffrey.
this past saturday i had an elder stop by to chat for the first time since i left.
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freemindfade
1. Old guard is passing away
2. Next generatons aren't reaching out
3. The very young are leaving
4. Informaton is more available and easy to access and the kids these days are savvy to that.
5. Science and archeological discoveries daily discredit the bible and the more we learn about our universe the smaller the idea of a middle eastern contrived yhwh seems.
Knowledge vs superstition. Because it's a captive religion it's big and hard to leave. Hopefully each generation is less captive and it starts dying
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I'm not so sure a bigger awakening is going to happen anymore
by bradford inwhen i left in march officially i started reading the forums here.
i had this excitement that more people would be leaving soon because of the crazy broadcasts, the crazy "new light" that the gb was dishing out, and more recently the australian royal commission lighting up geoffrey.
this past saturday i had an elder stop by to chat for the first time since i left.
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freemindfade
I agree with my Thor worshipping brother _Morpheus to some degree.
Still I believe the religion has been far more solid in the past, I think even thought many are plodding along, its not the religion it was and I don't believe it ever will be again. Honestly I feel 2014 was the apex and one of the last disappointments (timewise) for the org. That coupled with the information age, I think there are many who do not take it as seriously. It did change, and if you are sensitive to their delivery of information, they know this is happening as well, they know people are leaving, and not because someone hurt their feelings, that is just what they have fed the RF because to say otherwise shows a different problem, that people are fed up with the lies and stupidity. I don't think we are going to wake up one day and everyone leaves, but i think the DNA of the cult is getting weaker, the doctrine is shallow and foolish, the scandals pile up. Witnesses are going to be in denial, that is for sure, but slowly i think more and more are going to give it less weight in their lives, even if they stay in for the long hall. No one is reaching out, people are leaving, physically and through fade, the criticism is mounting. information is more and more available, people are going to start and see more and more "normal" "spiritual" people step away, or fade, and this is going to wake others up. If they aren't going out because of being DF'd or in an outspoken "apostate" rage, things have changed. Its a very influential religion with a ton of people. Its not going to deflate over night, however things are changing in a butterfly effect kind of way, small tremors and systemic changes are eating away at its foundations.
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Last night earthquake
by Mandrake inlast night i was in my car returning to santiago from vina del mar (the seaside) and waiting the green light the 8.4 earthquake started!
it lasted 2 minutes!!!
some people were scared, most acted calmly... so that brings to my memory what was to be a jw in the most seismic country in the world!
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freemindfade
Glad your safe, that is a big one!
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Lurker trying to gain clarity
by questioningmyfaith inhello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.
i am not negative towards the wt at all.
so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.
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freemindfade
Why do humans seem to be so unable to rule themselves.
another questions of yours I think you should think deeply about. Religion is a form of flawed (and very violent) human rulership, that just doesn't work. The first person or group of persons to say 'My God says" started something very dangerous. entitlement from their mythological deity of choice to act as they please.
So you question seems to excuse or imply an idea that JW's could have the truth because in your opinion they are able to rule themselves. But they are just another religion. You believe they effectively rule themselves. Well someone out there feels the same way you do about Scientology. Also about North Korea. That within their own system, they have it right.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Former Tasmanian Jehovah's Witness tells of guilt for not reporting church child abuse
by freemindfade ina former jehovah's witness from hobart has said he feels guilty for not breaking with the church and reporting claims of child abuse.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-17/former-jehovahs-witness-tells-of-guilt-for-not-reporting/6780366.
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freemindfade
A former Jehovah's Witness from Hobart has said he feels guilty for not breaking with the church and reporting claims of child abuse.
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Lurker trying to gain clarity
by questioningmyfaith inhello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.
i am not negative towards the wt at all.
so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.
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freemindfade
That's clarity
Nice post Island Man
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Lurker trying to gain clarity
by questioningmyfaith inhello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.
i am not negative towards the wt at all.
so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.
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freemindfade
Questoning
Think about this. You are on this site, and you have to hide who you really are because the religion you belong to is so opposed to any dissent, they have effectively censored you so you don't lose all your loved ones. It's not OK.
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Lurker trying to gain clarity
by questioningmyfaith inhello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.
i am not negative towards the wt at all.
so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.
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freemindfade
First off to freemindfade... I did recently come out to a couple of elders about ALL of my doubts. They were nothing but kind. And one of them I use to always feel had it out for me. They even recommended to me that I continue to serve as an elder.
hold it right there. First of all you started this by saying you are "questioning your faith in god". This is a very safe delivery of that idea. I know if you said this in front of elders they will love bomb you just short of s-cking your d-cik. I've been there too. With elder and the CO. I told them the same thing and they were soooooo cool. so helpful so sweet on and on. I promise you if you told them you don't believe in god. you don't think the FDS is god's channel for truth. or any other more direct things, their tone would have been less sweet and more "now just hold it right there". Doubts is an open door, that you are just weak and need help. I used that word for a few years and everyone is very sympathetic and sweet. Get into a factual debate about a TRUTH they don't accept, ie 607 bce, as soon as CD kicks in the sweet kindness goes out the f-ckin' window. You still want to believe in god, you still want to believe in this religion. You haven't become intellectually honest with yourself yet, and probably because it is a very uncomfortable metamorphosis and deep down you know that.
Don't feel like you are being attacked here. We all have differences of opinions here. On atheism. Christianity. Judaism. Muslim. All kinds of differences we don't agree with. However, when it comes to denial about the witnesses we all see the pattern that is familiar in ourselves or others we've known or know.
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Lurker trying to gain clarity
by questioningmyfaith inhello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.
i am not negative towards the wt at all.
so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.
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freemindfade
I agree with DOC, part of it too that you may experience that may have been part of it for me too, was a certain kind of pride, that hey I am too smart to ever be a part of something as bad as it is portrayed, yea I may disagree and walk away, but if I think it was as bad as reality, that means I, me, was duped! Well, I was raised in and as long as I went along with it for 3 decades, I was duped. I was wrong. Its bad and its a high control cult.
One day I asked myself, if I wasn't born in and the witnesses came to me at my door would I give them a second of my time? the answer was nope. From that day I completely stopped identifying with them as you are describing. Its just another harmful religion. One of many.
And again you say you don't have disdain? you are censored, you cannot share your thoughts and truths with them, once you do, even in the slightest, it will turn on you and you will learn to hate the religion. When you see loved ones acting out of emotion and CD and not rationality to you're and their harm. you will change.